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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 30, 2020 1:49:45 GMT
OMG! This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Trump is mopping the floor with Biden. This is elder abuse.
Biden's people need to throw in the towel.
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Post by Kzach on Sept 30, 2020 11:01:33 GMT
^confirmation bias^
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Post by Kzach on Sept 30, 2020 11:08:28 GMT
Trump prevented Biden from delivering a message, while Trump is the message. Good strategy for Trump, but is there anyone left to convince?
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 30, 2020 11:26:05 GMT
Trump prevented Biden from delivering a message, while Trump is the message. Good strategy for Trump, but is there anyone left to convince? Biden has no message. The Green New Deal co- authored by Kneelin' Kamala now he no longer supports? Unable to identify a single LEO that endorses him? No answers for why his ne'er-do-well son is handed buckets of cash from countries that want to undermine the US. Unwilling to declare his leftist antifa supporters the rioters that they are. Wanting to take away the US's energy independence. Coming out and saying he'll tax the shit out of everyone. No comment on why he's done nothing in his 47 years in public office except sell out the US to line his own pockets. Unable to distinguish between absentee ballots specifically requested by the voter and unsolicited mail in ballots (guarantee all those sent to nursing homes will be filled out by "helpers" as Dem votes). It didn't help either candidate that Wallace can't ask questions succinctly. Debate in a nutshell: 1. Biden starts to ramble, gets saved by Wallace, never actually answers a question. 2. Trump starts to destroy Biden, Wallace interrupts, resulting in Trump having to debate 2 people at the same time. Biden didn't answer a single question. Wallace interrupted Biden 15 times vs 76 times he interrupted Trump. Fact checkers pretty much confirmed the majority of Trump's statements to, in fact, be true. Leftists and MSM are already calling for there to be no more debates. I so want the next debate to be moderated by Rogan...
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Post by kirinke on Sept 30, 2020 12:09:33 GMT
Trump has no message. He was just being his same old self. A lying, bullying wind-bag. Do we want that as president?
Trump just gave the presidency to Biden with that performance, depending on whether or not Biden can capitalize on Trump's over-all negativity and douchebaggery.
You won't be able to convince Trump's base, but that was never going to happen with the debates. The debates are all about the undecidededs.
Trump lying about his taxes:
How long does it take to complete taxes? Everyone else has to do them on time. Not to mention, there is nothing preventing him from releasing taxes, even when they're under audit. He just won't, because he's hiding something.
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Post by Eldorian on Sept 30, 2020 15:12:48 GMT
Answer me a hypothetical, 3cat. If Trump had pulled a pistol during the debate and shot Biden in the head, and said, "Vote for me, not this dead guy" how erect would you be?
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 30, 2020 15:27:41 GMT
Answer me a hypothetical, 3cat. If Trump had pulled a pistol during the debate and shot Biden in the head, and said, "Vote for me, not this dead guy" how erect would you be? While that would never happen, I would be horrified by it. That having been said,if he had done so, Biden's mental faculties would't decline any more than they already have.
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Post by kirinke on Sept 30, 2020 15:34:16 GMT
Hey, at least Biden released his taxes. Trump? Not so much. Doesn't take a genius to do so you know.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 30, 2020 15:51:50 GMT
Hey, at least Biden released his taxes. Trump? Not so much. Doesn't take a genius to do so you know. Not required to, why should he? More importantly, this "revelation" that he only paid $750 in 2016 and 2017 isn't shocking to anyone involved in business - want to blame anyone for the tax breaks, incentives, and implantation of tax laws? Blame Congress for making the tax laws what they are. 10% on income for all taxpayers with no deductions, and it's be so much simpler.
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Post by kirinke on Sept 30, 2020 17:23:55 GMT
Trump also failed to denounce white supremacists and told the Proud Boys to stand by. He basically told America he was the leader of white supremacists with that one line.
Yeah, it's called tax fraud. Plus, from the looks of things he also has massive losses and is in debt up to his ears and beyond. Hell, he pays more to foreign government in taxes than he does to the US. Why else wouldn't he release his taxes? Quit being so dense. Ivanka is also in the hot seat. You can't be a consultant to a company you're employed in after all.
But nice try. You get a kazoo as a consolation prize
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 30, 2020 21:34:42 GMT
Trump also failed to denounce white supremacists and told the Proud Boys to stand by. He basically told America he was the leader of white supremacists with that one line.
Yeah, it's called tax fraud. Plus, from the looks of things he also has massive losses and is in debt up to his ears and beyond. Hell, he pays more to foreign government in taxes than he does to the US. Why else wouldn't he release his taxes? Quit being so dense. Ivanka is also in the hot seat. You can't be a consultant to a company you're employed in after all.
But nice try. You get a kazoo as a consolation prize
When the tax laws allow it, it's not fraud. Depreciation. Tax exemptions. Rebates. Credits. Capital Gains. Business expenses. Carry forwards. Need me to continue? All legal. All enacted into law by Congress. As to being a consultant - if the consultant effort is different from what you are employed to do, it's perfectly legal as long as you pay the income tax on it. If she was managing a project's timeline and consulted on the interior design that's perfectly legal. That you don't like it is of no concern.
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Post by kirinke on Sept 30, 2020 22:11:27 GMT
If what he was doing was as above board as you say, then he'd have no problem releasing his tax returns like every other president and presidential hopeful before him has done. Since that hasn't happened, tax fraud is the likely answer.
It's not rocket science 3cat. But then, you'd defend Trump even if he did shoot somebody in cold blood.
After all, he is your white supremacist bunker boy king.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 30, 2020 22:55:55 GMT
If what he was doing was as above board as you say, then he'd have no problem releasing his tax returns like every other president and presidential hopeful before him has done. Since that hasn't happened, tax fraud is the likely answer.
It's not rocket science 3cat. But then, you'd defend Trump even if he did shoot somebody in cold blood.
After all, he is your white supremacist bunker boy king.
Is it so difficult to grasp that providing your tax returns as a presidential candidate isn't required? Tradition? Fuck tradition. We've had 47 years of Joe Biden and the rest of the swamp's tradition.
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Post by kirinke on Sept 30, 2020 23:20:59 GMT
Trump drained the swamp alright and back filled it with a cess pit.
You really would defend him if he murdered somebody. Hell, you still haven't said anything about him refusing to condemn white supremacists. If a democratic president refused to release their tax returns, you'd be screaming bloody murder.
This is why I'm no longer going to be the nice one. It just doesn't work anymore.
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Post by cyphersmith on Sept 30, 2020 23:39:53 GMT
Trump prevented Biden from delivering a message, while Trump is the message. Good strategy for Trump, but is there anyone left to convince? Biden has no message. The Green New Deal co- authored by Kneelin' Kamala now he no longer supports? Unable to identify a single LEO that endorses him? No answers for why his ne'er-do-well son is handed buckets of cash from countries that want to undermine the US. Unwilling to declare his leftist antifa supporters the rioters that they are. Wanting to take away the US's energy independence. Coming out and saying he'll tax the shit out of everyone. No comment on why he's done nothing in his 47 years in public office except sell out the US to line his own pockets. Unable to distinguish between absentee ballots specifically requested by the voter and unsolicited mail in ballots (guarantee all those sent to nursing homes will be filled out by "helpers" as Dem votes). It didn't help either candidate that Wallace can't ask questions succinctly. Debate in a nutshell: 1. Biden starts to ramble, gets saved by Wallace, never actually answers a question. 2. Trump starts to destroy Biden, Wallace interrupts, resulting in Trump having to debate 2 people at the same time. Biden didn't answer a single question. Wallace interrupted Biden 15 times vs 76 times he interrupted Trump. Fact checkers pretty much confirmed the majority of Trump's statements to, in fact, be true. Leftists and MSM are already calling for there to be no more debates. I so want the next debate to be moderated by Rogan... And how many times did Trump interrupt Biden? How many lies did he produce? The entire thing was a fucking shitshow. I started watching it, but couldn't stomach it after about halfway through. Biden showed some restraint in the beginning, but Trump had no ability to restrain himself at all. Both used a lot of talking points, but once they started in on personal insults I was done. Oh, I was fine with the name calling for a bit, and Biden doing what everyone wants to do and telling Trump to shut up was nice to see, but when it went from sniping to actual attacks, that was it for me.
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