I've watched them. I can't tell how much of the 'olde timey' hooky parts of the episodes are linked into what's going on, certainly more in the second episode than the first... but for instance in episode 1, how much of Vision's workplace (the ambiguity of purpose, his coworker, his boss) a part of what is going on in the greater plotline? Or is it just 'weirdness' filler with no purpose. I have a strong suspicion episode 3 will fill a lot in.
Post by mustrumridcully on Jan 28, 2021 15:21:43 GMT
I suspect the weirdness of the office place might not be directly tied to any clues and specific things going on, it's just there to establish that something is off about this world they live in.
For my taste, they spend a bit too much time on their "ancient sitcom-mimikry" and not enough on advancing the story. Legion also did a lot of "weirdness", but I kinda found that weird part to be more interesting on its own than I find the Wandavision sitcom stuff. But I can see it might be different for others ,and they are picking up the pace, it seems.
Show's starting to make sense. I like it more. I think it's a show that should be binged tho.
The first three episodes needed to be back-to-back. 1 and 2 are too slow, but they are there to establish that there are changes between the shows and there is something going on under the surface. 1 is the 50s, 2 the 60s, and 3 the 70s, and 3 is the first really big clue which would have made for a great cliffhanger between weeks.
So the MCU is going all in on magic being magic and not just "high tech and advanced understanding". Son't get me wrong, they semi-signaled this with Dr Strange (along with all the "advanced understanding" phlebitonium), but episode 8 is straight up "nah dawg, this shit be magic".
So that I suspect is where WandaVision will most strongly support the next Dr Strange movie and the Loki series.
Where did you get the idea that magic wasn't magic? In Thor, he just says that he comes from a place where magic and science are the same, meaning his people use magitech, not that magic is advanced tech. The science in the MCU is also magic, btw. Look at the Hulk or Ant-Man violating the conservation of mass.
Where did you get the idea that magic wasn't magic?
In the very early days of Phase One Kevin Feige was questioned and straight out said "Thor won't be magic, he comes from an advanced super science race. It may look like magic*, but it's just science humans don't understand yet." (basically, paraphrasing liberties taken)
* Yeah, yeah 'sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from science', yada, yada.
A relevant quote I found talking about the first Thor movie, from that time(ish):
Sean Carroll, who did some science advising for the film, clears the idea up a bit:
Kevin Feige, president of production at Marvel Studios, is a huge proponent of having the world of these films ultimately “make sense.” It’s not our world, obviously, but there needs to be a set of “natural laws” that keeps things in order — not just for Iron Man and Thor, but all the way up to Doctor Strange, the Sorcerer Supreme who will get his own movie before too long.
There were other quotes back then, but it's hard to find them, but yes, at the time of Thor's movie, it very much was "sufficiently advanced science". By the time Dr. Strange rolled around*, things had changed†, but it was never hammered down that "magic is magic" and not just "sufficiently advanced energy manipulation science" under a different label.
* And Ghost Rider in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but the movies influenced the show, the influence did not flow back, so I discounted Ghost Rider as any sort of 'evidence' magic is magic.