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Post by mustrumridcully on Mar 10, 2020 12:56:25 GMT
I found it well written. The characters are well-developing on screen, there is a lot of show, not tell. But I think for some people it's too slow and not enough happens or not is enough revealed. (Those were probably not the people that complained the Picard Trailers made it look like an action spectacle). And maybe some preferred it when Picard was still Captain of one of the most powerful starships in the quadrant and had absolute confidence in his authority and abilities (nothing wrong with that, but this isn't the Picard in this show).
I also notice some complaints "on the internet" that suggest that it will not be working for you if you play around with your phone while watching. (I tried to watch one of the Red Letter Media re:Views, and it almost seemed as if they were part of that group.)
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Post by evileeyore on Mar 10, 2020 20:48:53 GMT
But I think for some people it's too slow and not enough happens or not is enough revealed. So far I consider it a 'medium burn' rate show (I mean two action sequences in one episode!), but then I prefer slow burn shows where the lore and reveals are doled out a bit at a time over the course of seasons. I rather like that it isn't at all episodic, a real break from the standard Trek tv show format. |
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Post by mustrumridcully on Mar 11, 2020 15:44:38 GMT
But I think for some people it's too slow and not enough happens or not is enough revealed. I rather like that it isn't at all episodic, a real break from the standard Trek tv show format. Discovery is already like that, though. And it is something that I know bothers some Star Trek fans. I love it, though. It is one of my favorite features of today's "TV".
I remember reading that Micheal Chabon (one of the Picard writers) was asked if we'd ever see episodic Star Trek again. And he said - sure, if there is a demand for it. I can't tell if there really is demand for it (just because some vocal fans complain about something can't tell us that), but I could see there might be. I could also see that some of the announced Star Trek projects, particularly the two new animation series, could very well lend themselves to be the right platform for that. Though of course, some fans will hate it because it's animated or for kids or whatever. But I would say that "old" Star Trek was very much for kids, because I watched it as a kid and it worked great for me.
From the streaming provider perspective, serialized shows have the advantage of bringing people back to watch the show (and re-subscribe or stay subscribed) because they want to know what happens next. But I think there is also streaming market for more easily digestible stuff - there is a reason Friends streaming rights are considered so valuable.
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Post by evileeyore on Mar 11, 2020 19:57:36 GMT
Discovery is already like that, though. Yeah... but it's a also a hot mess in terms of "being Star Trek". Agreed. I hate episodic shows. I'll tolerate them if there is a strong plot, good writing, good acting, etc... but too many long-arc shows have ruined me to ever enjoying something for being "episodic" ever again. And for me this started back in the late 80's early 90's with long-form cartoons (most of which were still episodic, but they had those long plot arcs that carried over from show to show). Yes, the majority of consumers have terrible taste.  |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 26, 2020 14:28:16 GMT
Companies of any sort tend to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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Post by evileeyore on Apr 9, 2020 0:38:58 GMT
Finished Pickard.
It's... hmmmm. "Better" than TnG in spectacle and cinematography. More my cuppa in being a long form story rather than episodic. But they flat out stole plot elements from Mass Effect and then bungled the ending. Probably because they didn't want it to be a 'one and done', which would have pleased me to no end.
Watching it was like sex that was mostly amazing* all the way to the climax, but then your girl leaps out of bed and runs off leaving you unfinished. And no, she ain't coming back.
* Kinda like a kangaroo driving a car. It might hit the curb and go down the sidewalk a few times, but it's exciting and you're mostly astounded it can get there [compliments of Two and a Half Men].
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