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Post by evileeyore on Jun 9, 2020 5:59:24 GMT
If Minneapolis has it's way, those 911 calls will result in sending out strongly worded letters to stop rapists, murderers and thieves... My prediction? The residents say "Oh hell fuck no". But if it does go down the way the stupidest screamingest leftists want, it'll be interesting to watch from afar.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jun 9, 2020 12:52:00 GMT
If Minneapolis has it's way, those 911 calls will result in sending out strongly worded letters to stop rapists, murderers and thieves... My prediction? The residents say "Oh hell fuck no". But if it does go down the way the stupidest screamingest leftists want, it'll be interesting to watch from afar. I note a bunch of kneejerk liberals already starting to walk back defunding the police...
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Post by Maxperson on Jun 9, 2020 15:47:29 GMT
If Minneapolis has it's way, those 911 calls will result in sending out strongly worded letters to stop rapists, murderers and thieves... My prediction? The residents say "Oh hell fuck no". But if it does go down the way the stupidest screamingest leftists want, it'll be interesting to watch from afar. Yep. Defunding is one of the dumbest ideas I've seen in ages. I was just telling my wife last night that if this happens, it will be an object lesson for the rest of the liberals screaming for this sort of thing.
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Post by cyphersmith on Jun 9, 2020 18:34:33 GMT
Like milk out in the sun. I wish I were a gun store owner this weekend, several in my county have reported selling out of of stock. Like, sold out, no more guns in their stores. I wonder how many used their stimulus checks to pick up some "Hello 911. I'm sorry due to high call volumes we're experiencing a wait time of 45 minutes..." insurance. If Minneapolis has it's way, those 911 calls will result in sending out strongly worded letters to stop rapists, murderers and thieves... You're misunderstanding, probably deliberately, the calls to defund the police. Take a look at Camden, NJ for an example. To your specific fear, in general police don't stop those people. They arrive after the fact and try to find and apprehend the suspect. In all honesty, the police are called in all too often to do things that aren't their jobs. That needs to change, which would reduce the jobs we're asking the police to do, which would reduce the need for some of the money that is going to the police, which could then go to things that actually address those things.
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Post by evileeyore on Jun 9, 2020 21:07:51 GMT
You're misunderstanding, probably deliberately, the calls to defund the police. Take a look at Camden, NJ for an example. Ah yes, Camden, where "defunding the popo" meant shifting those funds to other, larger police and sheriff departments to take over because Camden was going bankrupt and couldn't actually fund their own police department anymore. Also, Camden went from a police force that was 2/3 black to one that is almost 2/3 whites, a real step towards better representation. And those "racist" cops on the Camden force? Rehired by the county that took over the majority of the Camden policing... Man, what a brilliant idea you've stumbled onto here. Want to try again? Oh, incase anyone actually believes the horseshit that "defund the police" means anything other than the bailey tactic they're claiming it is...
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Post by kirinke on Jun 10, 2020 14:32:47 GMT
What needs to happen, is a systematic look at policies, training, hiring and the like, make reforms where needed, engage the public in positive ways and saner heads need to take charge on both sides.
Right now, we don't have anything like that.
Defunding the cops is just silly.
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Post by evileeyore on Jun 10, 2020 15:23:50 GMT
What needs to happen, is a systematic... I agree aside from the word "systemic". A lot of people like to throw that around as though it's an easy answer, however... It means putting together a task force. Probably at the Federal level (more bureaucracy and tax dollars) to comb over every single police force in the US, then study the results of those "policies, training, hiring and the like" (so years in the studying) and then draft policy reforms (more years), and institute policy reform (more years of implementing), and then local police forces have to live up to federal guidelines and policy, which means they aren't flexible enough to adapt to evolving situations in their areas (Federal levels of bureaucracy). Is this doable? Yes. Is it something that "small government" types will easily swallow? Probably not. Is it something that all police forces require? No. I'd like to see a more "academic" side take. Where the Fed commissions (more taxes) studies from universities and colleges* (broader sweep, no singular partisan think tank please), and from there forms a joint Congressional Committee (time, bureaucracy) to draft guidelines on training and policy. But guidelines. No enforced from the top changes. And leave it to local forces to adapt or not as their areas require. Hoever if the guidelines are coherent (it's Congress) and good, I suspect most police forces would adopt them. * While these the process open to stronk SJW bullshittery, my hope is that the Joint Committee can pluck the gold nuggets from the steaming piles of Critical Theory.
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Post by kirinke on Jun 10, 2020 15:54:57 GMT
Ayup. Not disagreeing here. It'll take time and money to do it, but it's possible to do it. Real change doesn't happen overnight (it takes lots and lots of work) and people need to realize that.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 11, 2020 13:57:53 GMT
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 11, 2020 21:46:10 GMT
Anyone who didn't expect that is as dumb as kzach.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 13, 2020 13:10:56 GMT
Remind me again why we should have gun control? youtu.be/lvHo7c3FG1kCommunicating a threat to kill police officers and them *not* proceeding to beat you to within an inch of your worthless life is all the proof anyone needs that the police *won't* be able to save you should you find yourself surrounded by a bunch of terrorists, as we saw in Rochester awhile back. Police leadership is resigning, not because of blm/antifa, but because of simp government "leaders" who are weak (I don't want to offend these thugs who don't give a fuck about me) or who are sympathetic to the blm/antifa terrorist activities - directly putting police officers lives in danger.
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Post by Kzach on Sept 22, 2020 11:55:30 GMT
Yoursupport for Trump who is weak internationally did that. Not the lack of guns. But I love thus fantasy that a few guns would stop China's army. But delusion is at the base of Republican politics...
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 22, 2020 12:55:04 GMT
Yoursupport for Trump who is weak internationally did that. The only difference between what happened under Trump and "What Would HRC Do" is, HRC would have made sure Xi paid her her 50¢ per post.
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Post by Kzach on Sept 23, 2020 20:07:03 GMT
Yoursupport for Trump who is weak internationally did that. The only difference between what happened under Trump and "What Would HRC Do" is, HRC would have made sure Xi paid her her 50¢ per post. Is that what Russia pays you?
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 24, 2020 3:29:01 GMT
Is that what Russia pays you? In Soviet Russia, you pay for post!
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