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Post by Ovinomancer on Apr 28, 2020 3:05:36 GMT
And how it's completely different from Kavanaugh?
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Post by evileeyore on Apr 28, 2020 4:30:02 GMT
Nah, Hobo we don't really need to talk about #GamerGate thanks though...
I mean, what is there to say? It won't change Xyxox's or my vote.... it's far, far , far less worrisome to me that the left treat their own differently when they nonconsensually screw the pooch* than that they're literally willing to keep backing someone who clearly has Alzheimer's.
* To be fair, both sides do this.
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Post by kirinke on Apr 28, 2020 13:22:03 GMT
It needs to be investigated. Just like the allegations against Trump and his cronies need to be investigated. Fair is fair after all. Guys and gals in power need to learn how to keep their paddy-paws to themselves.
Personally, I'd like to see all politicians castrated, so the stupid fuckers don't sully the gene-pool, but that's just me.
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Post by Libtard on Apr 28, 2020 14:38:59 GMT
Jo Biden is a privileged horny old man who grew up thinking it was fine to grab a tit, a pussy or an arse, and to push the power button on his female underlings when he didn't get what he wanted.
He is fairly typical of white American men of his generation, career and social standing.
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Post by cyphersmith on Apr 28, 2020 15:22:24 GMT
It needs to be investigated. Just like the allegations against Trump and his cronies need to be investigated. Fair is fair after all. Guys and gals in power need to learn how to keep their paddy-paws to themselves.
Personally, I'd like to see all politicians castrated, so the stupid fuckers don't sully the gene-pool, but that's just me.
It seems to me that the only investigation that can happen is happening. There can be no criminal investigation, as the statute of limitations is way past. The accusation is credible. (And despite what Ovi says, so was the accusation of Kavanaugh). Tara Reade appears to have told multiple people, though she didn't tell everything to all of the people she talked to. For example, I doubt she told her mother that she had been sexually assaulted, as her mother was very calm in her call to Larry King. And while they don't know why, people who also worked for Biden at the time DO remember the reduction in her duties.
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Post by kirinke on Apr 28, 2020 15:55:00 GMT
Jo Biden is a privileged horny old man who grew up thinking it was fine to grab a tit, a pussy or an arse, and to push the power button on his female underlings when he didn't get what he wanted. He is fairly typical of white American men of his generation, career and social standing. Doesn't excuse it and I stand by the castration remark.
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Post by cyphersmith on Apr 28, 2020 17:50:56 GMT
Jo Biden is a privileged horny old man who grew up thinking it was fine to grab a tit, a pussy or an arse, and to push the power button on his female underlings when he didn't get what he wanted. He is fairly typical of white American men of his generation, career and social standing. Doesn't excuse it and I stand by the castration remark. Castration doesn't actually do much with respect to reducing the likelihood of offending in this manner, since it's mostly a power play.
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Post by kirinke on Apr 28, 2020 18:06:33 GMT
True. But it does keep them from passing on their stupid and evil to the next generation. I hate all politicians in general though.
Maybe the threat of castration would keep the greedy and stupid out of office, or at least make them give it a second thought before doing it.
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Post by Devoid on Apr 28, 2020 22:25:10 GMT
Maybe the threat of castration would keep the greedy and stupid out of office, or at least make them give it a second thought before doing it.
It won't deter the stupid. Stupid is as stupid does...
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Post by kirinke on Apr 28, 2020 22:29:57 GMT
I can dream can't i?!!! Damnit, don't burst my bubble like that. Meanie.
It'd just really make what's already reality physical reality as well. I mean they're all pretty much dickless, mealy-mouthed, corporation bought pond scum.
And those are the ones not caught up in sex scandals. The ones caught up in sex scandals are even lower than that.
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Post by Ovinomancer on Apr 28, 2020 23:51:41 GMT
It needs to be investigated. Just like the allegations against Trump and his cronies need to be investigated. Fair is fair after all. Guys and gals in power need to learn how to keep their paddy-paws to themselves. Personally, I'd like to see all politicians castrated, so the stupid fuckers don't sully the gene-pool, but that's just me.
It seems to me that the only investigation that can happen is happening. There can be no criminal investigation, as the statute of limitations is way past. The accusation is credible. (And despite what Ovi says, so was the accusation of Kavanaugh). Tara Reade appears to have told multiple people, though she didn't tell everything to all of the people she talked to. For example, I doubt she told her mother that she had been sexually assaulted, as her mother was very calm in her call to Larry King. And while they don't know why, people who also worked for Biden at the time DO remember the reduction in her duties. "Credible" is doing a lot of work, here. Kavanaugh's accuser couldn't name a place or a date and no one ever remembered it happening or anything like it happening. It was credible only in the sense that is was possible, which is a different monster altogether. Lots of things as possible, like UFOs, or Bigfoot. This is a very low credibility bar. Reade's accusation is specific in detail and has contemporary recollections of others that validate parts of it. It's credibility is of a different grade, like, say, that a Chinese virus research lab accidentally released COVID-19. It's not just possible, it has additional lines of evidence to support it. It's not provable, though, unless smoking gun evidence arises. So, then, credibility discussed, let's pivot to the actual difference between the cases. In Kavanaugh's case, the uproar was immediate and loud, with many calls to believe without evidence. There was a very strong push to have an FBI investigation of the allegations. There were Congressional hearings, with witnesses called and cross examination. The Press talked about it almost non-stop for months. With Biden, there's much more evidence to look at, but no widespread calls for investigation by the same people that were howling for Kavanaugh to be investigated. The Press is doing it's damnest to ignore it. People that were all for believing the witness for Kavanaugh suddenly have much more hesitant responses to Biden. And, all of this is with Biden already having a reputation as a creeper and hair smeller while Kavanaugh had nothing but excellent things said about him from his female colleagues and staff. So, as I said, "credible" is doing an awful lot of work in your post.
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Post by Libtard on Apr 29, 2020 2:41:33 GMT
The entire Kavanaugh episode was a debacle, for any number of reasons. I mostly blame Dianne Feinstein for dropping a huge turd at the outset, and withholding Ford's letter until she thought she could leverage it to better effect. It poisoned the whole process; had she tendered it to the Senate at the outset I think a lot of things would be very different now. I hate the term "inflection point" but I think the Kavanaugh appointment was one of them: Kavanaugh still has a cloud hanging over him and Ford has no sense of justice having been served: everyone ended up losing.
Do I think Kavanaugh was guilty? Well, he was a rich, drunken frat boy in the 80s and the era of Animal House and Porky's. So, yes. Do I think that hundreds of other judges/doctors/politicians/business leaders are also guilty? You betcha. What is considered forgivable has changed radically in the last generation. Men are thinking Shit. Did I really do that shit?.
Which is a good thing. Hopefully, they won't do it again.
It doesn't matter. Majority fat old white Americans don't care who you've groped, anyway. The more, the better.
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Post by kirinke on Apr 29, 2020 10:55:58 GMT
He's also as much admitted to doing that. So the other stuff is credible as well. I'm not excusing his actions, they need to be investigated and he needs his balls slow burned over an open fire because of it if found out to be true.
It's not going to happen of course. But a gal can dream though.
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Post by cyphersmith on Apr 29, 2020 15:29:08 GMT
It seems to me that the only investigation that can happen is happening. There can be no criminal investigation, as the statute of limitations is way past. The accusation is credible. (And despite what Ovi says, so was the accusation of Kavanaugh). Tara Reade appears to have told multiple people, though she didn't tell everything to all of the people she talked to. For example, I doubt she told her mother that she had been sexually assaulted, as her mother was very calm in her call to Larry King. And while they don't know why, people who also worked for Biden at the time DO remember the reduction in her duties. "Credible" is doing a lot of work, here. Kavanaugh's accuser couldn't name a place or a date and no one ever remembered it happening or anything like it happening. It was credible only in the sense that is was possible, which is a different monster altogether. Lots of things as possible, like UFOs, or Bigfoot. This is a very low credibility bar. Reade's accusation is specific in detail and has contemporary recollections of others that validate parts of it. It's credibility is of a different grade, like, say, that a Chinese virus research lab accidentally released COVID-19. It's not just possible, it has additional lines of evidence to support it. It's not provable, though, unless smoking gun evidence arises. So, then, credibility discussed, let's pivot to the actual difference between the cases. In Kavanaugh's case, the uproar was immediate and loud, with many calls to believe without evidence. There was a very strong push to have an FBI investigation of the allegations. There were Congressional hearings, with witnesses called and cross examination. The Press talked about it almost non-stop for months. With Biden, there's much more evidence to look at, but no widespread calls for investigation by the same people that were howling for Kavanaugh to be investigated. The Press is doing it's damnest to ignore it. People that were all for believing the witness for Kavanaugh suddenly have much more hesitant responses to Biden. And, all of this is with Biden already having a reputation as a creeper and hair smeller while Kavanaugh had nothing but excellent things said about him from his female colleagues and staff. So, as I said, "credible" is doing an awful lot of work in your post. Wow, a throwaway comment got you riled. Kavanaugh had a number of women other than Ford come out, though one of those probably was just to get her 15 minutes for something that didn't happen. The memory thing is unfortunately common. There was a party that could have been the one Ford was talking about. It's in his planner for the time period. Nothing about it was ever checked out. The other incidents do show a tendency to get drunk and do stupid shit when he was young. And the time period was actually determined by some research done by reporters. One of her statements was that later the year she was assaulted, she ran into one of Kavanaugh's best friends working at a grocery store. He only worked at that store for part of one year. And that party I mentioned happened about the right amount of time before meeting Kavanaugh's friend at the grocery store. That friend was the one who was there, can't remember his name. He's not the most reliable of witnesses because he was known to regularly get blackout drunk.
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Post by evileeyore on Apr 29, 2020 20:47:34 GMT
Less seriousness, more silliness...
To be fair to Alyssa "My Lifestyle Is Maintained By The CAA" Milano, she has switched sides again and is now firmly behind #metooing Biden. Of course
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