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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 21, 2021 17:33:12 GMT
And that was a failure on his part. The problem is - who do you get to sit a cabinet position that has sufficient relevant experience and that isn't entrenched in the government-industrial complex? Alternatively, you pick someone who *isn't* entrenched. For example, Trump picked DeVos for Ed Sec - and teachers unions bitched and moaned because she supports school choice. This was a great pick because anyone willing to give citizens more choice is a good thing. Compare that to why did he pick Dr. Ben Carson for HHS instead of Surgeon General? No idea. Or why he allowed Haspel to run the CIA when she was knee-deep in Russia conspiracy theories with Brennan and Comey? Why would you expect Burden to be any better in his picks? They're all Obama retreads selected to run things behind the scenes and get the globalist oligarchy back on track while he drools on himself. Even they lower level positions are bad - they selected Levine as Asst Sec of Health even though he was responsible for sending covid patients into nursing homes in PA to murder the elderly. DeVos had NO experience, and she was a HORRIBLE choice. SHE. Levine is a SHE. Misgendering her is bullshit. And I don't actually agree with her decision regarding nursing homes. Never said I did expect Biden to be better in his picks. No experience didn't stop Obama or Biden. That DeVos wouldn't kowtow to teachers unions (who care about union interests instead of teachers and students) is sufficient qualification in my book. As to Levine - anyone who looks like Ben Franklin isn't a she. When Levine starts looking like Bailey Jay or a Thai ladyboy, then come talk to me. Or, to quote Austin Powers, "that's a man baby!" |
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Post by evileeyore on Jan 21, 2021 17:33:23 GMT
DeVos had NO experience, and she was a HORRIBLE choice.. Gotta half way agree with cyph here, while she had experience it was in destroying public schools, which is what she wanted to do, not "more choice", less choice by removing public schools as a viable option. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 21, 2021 17:37:21 GMT
DeVos had NO experience, and she was a HORRIBLE choice.. Gotta half way agree with cyph here, while she had experience it was in destroying public schools, which is what she wanted to do, not "more choice", less choice by removing public schools as a viable option. As someone who has a teacher for a spouse in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, *anyone* is better than continuing to throw good money after bad at public education that values woke culture over learning to read and write with proper grammar and to add 2+2 to equal 4 every time. |
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Post by cyphersmith on Jan 21, 2021 18:41:01 GMT
Gotta half way agree with cyph here, while she had experience it was in destroying public schools, which is what she wanted to do, not "more choice", less choice by removing public schools as a viable option. As someone who has a teacher for a spouse in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, *anyone* is better than continuing to throw good money after bad at public education that values woke culture over learning to read and write with proper grammar and to add 2+2 to equal 4 every time. You recognize, then, that a big part of the problem with public schools isn't the teachers or unions, but with the idiots on the school boards who don't want a change to the way education is done. The US is way behind everywhere else because of this. Further, you're a fucking nuke, so I know you're not stupid. Your hyperbole about math is just that, hyperbole. The problem with Common Core isn't the standards themselves, it's their implementation. And that teachers weren't trained to understand what they were teaching, just given the things they were to teach and told to teach them verbatim. The standards included different methods (that really do work, and are mathematically the equivalent to anything you were taught in school) to potentially use to help students understand the math. They weren't supposed to be methods that must be taught. And EE is right. DeVos wanted to destroy public schools. There are better ways to make our schools better. She also didn't want to help people who had been taken in by for profit schools that had lied to their students (like Trump University). |
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Post by Devoid on Jan 21, 2021 18:52:00 GMT
Gotta half way agree with cyph here, while she had experience it was in destroying public schools, which is what she wanted to do, not "more choice", less choice by removing public schools as a viable option. As someone who has a teacher for a spouse in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, *anyone* is better than continuing to throw good money after bad at public education that values woke culture over learning to read and write with proper grammar and to add 2+2 to equal 4 every time. Hey 3cat, I thought you loved living in a redneck paradise a while back. If your spouse is a teacher in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, it seems like redneck paradise might be a bit of an overstatement. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 21, 2021 19:15:59 GMT
As someone who has a teacher for a spouse in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, *anyone* is better than continuing to throw good money after bad at public education that values woke culture over learning to read and write with proper grammar and to add 2+2 to equal 4 every time. You recognize, then, that a big part of the problem with public schools isn't the teachers or unions, but with the idiots on the school boards who don't want a change to the way education is done. The US is way behind everywhere else because of this. Further, you're a fucking nuke, so I know you're not stupid. Your hyperbole about math is just that, hyperbole. The problem with Common Core isn't the standards themselves, it's their implementation. And that teachers weren't trained to understand what they were teaching, just given the things they were to teach and told to teach them verbatim. The standards included different methods (that really do work, and are mathematically the equivalent to anything you were taught in school) to potentially use to help students understand the math. They weren't supposed to be methods that must be taught. And EE is right. DeVos wanted to destroy public schools. There are better ways to make our schools better. She also didn't want to help people who had been taken in by for profit schools that had lied to their students (like Trump University). There's enough blame to go around for all of them. Unions that care about nothing more than helping the status quo so they can collect she's to share to Democratic political causes. Teachers who can't teach the material that can't be removed the date to perform. School boards staffed with crooks in places like Philly, Atlantic City, etc. or staffed with science-averse morons in the bible belt. Administrations averse to not promoting kids who shouldn't move on to the next grade. Kids who are allowed to treat school like a drug market with a captive audience. Parents that expect schools to be 24/7 babysitters. Unfortunately, we're not able to go back to 1950s standards regarding personal behavior by all persons involved in education - attentive, respectful students, teachers who can teach, board members who actually have good intentions and are willing to look at educational needs and trends without being sold in the latest fad theory. The output of public schools can be objectively measured - can kids read and write with proper grammar? Can they perform basic arithmetic? Do they understand the basics of biology and history? These aren't too much to ask for - regardless of what method is used to teach them. Instead, we have universities that are like 13th grade with a focus on remedials, students with an entitlement mentality, and an educational system that wants to focus their limited resources on trying to address claims that facts are racist. So yeah, I don't have a problem with burning down public education. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 21, 2021 19:17:44 GMT
As someone who has a teacher for a spouse in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, *anyone* is better than continuing to throw good money after bad at public education that values woke culture over learning to read and write with proper grammar and to add 2+2 to equal 4 every time. Hey 3cat, I thought you loved living in a redneck paradise a while back. If your spouse is a teacher in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, it seems like redneck paradise might be a bit of an overstatement. Redneck paradise is referring to the specific region I live in within the state. We're like a whole 'nother state, culturally. |
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Post by cyphersmith on Jan 21, 2021 20:45:08 GMT
You recognize, then, that a big part of the problem with public schools isn't the teachers or unions, but with the idiots on the school boards who don't want a change to the way education is done. The US is way behind everywhere else because of this. Further, you're a fucking nuke, so I know you're not stupid. Your hyperbole about math is just that, hyperbole. The problem with Common Core isn't the standards themselves, it's their implementation. And that teachers weren't trained to understand what they were teaching, just given the things they were to teach and told to teach them verbatim. The standards included different methods (that really do work, and are mathematically the equivalent to anything you were taught in school) to potentially use to help students understand the math. They weren't supposed to be methods that must be taught. And EE is right. DeVos wanted to destroy public schools. There are better ways to make our schools better. She also didn't want to help people who had been taken in by for profit schools that had lied to their students (like Trump University). There's enough blame to go around for all of them. Unions that care about nothing more than helping the status quo so they can collect she's to share to Democratic political causes. Teachers who can't teach the material that can't be removed the date to perform. School boards staffed with crooks in places like Philly, Atlantic City, etc. or staffed with science-averse morons in the bible belt. Administrations averse to not promoting kids who shouldn't move on to the next grade. Kids who are allowed to treat school like a drug market with a captive audience. Parents that expect schools to be 24/7 babysitters. Unfortunately, we're not able to go back to 1950s standards regarding personal behavior by all persons involved in education - attentive, respectful students, teachers who can teach, board members who actually have good intentions and are willing to look at educational needs and trends without being sold in the latest fad theory. The output of public schools can be objectively measured - can kids read and write with proper grammar? Can they perform basic arithmetic? Do they understand the basics of biology and history? These aren't too much to ask for - regardless of what method is used to teach them. Instead, we have universities that are like 13th grade with a focus on remedials, students with an entitlement mentality, and an educational system that wants to focus their limited resources on trying to address claims that facts are racist. So yeah, I don't have a problem with burning down public education. Sorry, all of that can be fixed. And fixed without burning everything down. Yes, the output can be measured, but some kids learn the material and just do badly on tests. Though there are ways to figure that out, they actually require teachers to have some control on their situations. Standardized testing ISN'T the solution, though. And also sorry, but the "latest fad theory" isn't what most teachers want to do. They want to use proven methods that work well in other countries and would also work well here. But there are people on school boards who want education to stay in the fifties with respect to how students are taught. There has been tons of change in the last 70 years, but too many boards don't want to implement those changes because "it worked for me, why should we change it?" But it didn't work for all too many of that board member's classmates. People learn in different ways. A person who doesn't learn in a standard classroom setting can learn in some other setting. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 22, 2021 4:46:35 GMT
It wasn't bad enough that this new administration required loyalty tests of the guardsmen - they forced them to sleep in a parking garage in 38 degree temperatures.
And in separate news, sending troops into Syria.
Great first 48 hrs, shitbags. You managed to treat the troops like shit and send them to get killed - something Trump didn't do in 4 years in office.
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 22, 2021 8:01:28 GMT
As someone who has a teacher for a spouse in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, *anyone* is better than continuing to throw good money after bad at public education that values woke culture over learning to read and write with proper grammar and to add 2+2 to equal 4 every time. Hey 3cat, I thought you loved living in a redneck paradise a while back. If your spouse is a teacher in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, it seems like redneck paradise might be a bit of an overstatement. Even California has some redneck paradise locations. And high property taxes. |
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 22, 2021 8:04:34 GMT
As someone who has a teacher for a spouse in a strong blue state with a strong teachers union and through the roof property taxes, *anyone* is better than continuing to throw good money after bad at public education that values woke culture over learning to read and write with proper grammar and to add 2+2 to equal 4 every time. You recognize, then, that a big part of the problem with public schools isn't the teachers or unions, but with the idiots on the school boards who don't want a change to the way education is done. The US is way behind everywhere else because of this. Further, you're a fucking nuke, so I know you're not stupid. Your hyperbole about math is just that, hyperbole. The problem with Common Core isn't the standards themselves, it's their implementation. And that teachers weren't trained to understand what they were teaching, just given the things they were to teach and told to teach them verbatim. The standards included different methods (that really do work, and are mathematically the equivalent to anything you were taught in school) to potentially use to help students understand the math. They weren't supposed to be methods that must be taught. And EE is right. DeVos wanted to destroy public schools. There are better ways to make our schools better. She also didn't want to help people who had been taken in by for profit schools that had lied to their students (like Trump University). No. Teachers unions, at least California's, suck wang. They've used their clout to force untenable raises and pensions, create rules that stymie the ability to get rid of bad teachers, and before new teachers get tenure, they can't be rated on their ability to actually teach when deciding whether to give them that tenure or not. The union is about itself and the kids can be damned for life. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 22, 2021 13:03:31 GMT
You recognize, then, that a big part of the problem with public schools isn't the teachers or unions, but with the idiots on the school boards who don't want a change to the way education is done. The US is way behind everywhere else because of this. Further, you're a fucking nuke, so I know you're not stupid. Your hyperbole about math is just that, hyperbole. The problem with Common Core isn't the standards themselves, it's their implementation. And that teachers weren't trained to understand what they were teaching, just given the things they were to teach and told to teach them verbatim. The standards included different methods (that really do work, and are mathematically the equivalent to anything you were taught in school) to potentially use to help students understand the math. They weren't supposed to be methods that must be taught. And EE is right. DeVos wanted to destroy public schools. There are better ways to make our schools better. She also didn't want to help people who had been taken in by for profit schools that had lied to their students (like Trump University). No. Teachers unions, at least California's, suck wang. They've used their clout to force untenable raises and pensions, create rules that stymie the ability to get rid of bad teachers, and before new teachers get tenure, they can't be rated on their ability to actually teach when deciding whether to give them that tenure or not. The union is about itself and the kids can be damned for life. You can pretty much replace "California" with *any* blue state or city in that statement and it's still true. A co-worker of mine found out he loved teaching so spent a bunch of his free time teaching robotics and STEM outreach. When he investigated what it would take to become a full time teacher in the district he decided against it. More stringent requirements to get certified than someone with a degree in Education, and unequal on the pay scale - even though he can teach *and* knows the material (math, science, computer programming) because that's what he'd been doing as his his full time job. Instead, he became an adjunct professor - teaching the same high school kids through a partnership between the school district and the local university. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 22, 2021 13:05:36 GMT
Today is January 22, 2021 and the Joe Burden - Kamel Toe Harris administration is the most corrupt in history.
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Post by kirinke on Jan 22, 2021 13:42:13 GMT
That honor goes to Trump and no matter how you scream otherwise 3cat, it will always be Trump's administration that is the most corrupt. You can't even really give any concrete examples of corruption. All your crying about corruption amounts to a "It's not fair" whine. All your insults are tired, grade-school taunts a 3 year old could come up with.
Seriously. Grow up and stop listening to Trump. He's rotting your brain.
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Post by evileeyore on Jan 23, 2021 5:39:42 GMT
Sing it with me kids:
♫♪ Rules for thee-ee, but not for me-ee... ♫ ♪
Also, note, she's on federal property during this press briefing.
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