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Post by evileeyore on Jan 27, 2021 16:15:48 GMT
So right now, you're pointing fingers and yelling before anything has been done about it yet. Weird, because the things I've spoken of in thread are things happening right now you ignoramus. Expanding the DNI's reach by redefining it's role in "threat assessment" and the fact the DIA is allowed to purchase data that because the seller isn't classifying it properly as "USA Citizen metadata" and thus getting around needing a warrant is happening right now. Patriot Act 2.0 will come because the Congress is worried about Insurrection Part: Hang 'Em High Boogaloo. An EO promising to end the contract with 2, count them only 2, prisons is not the 'win' against privatized prisons you lefty morons think it is. 1 - It's an EO, he can drop it anytime, and since the contracts don't renew during his presidency, the next President can do what Trump did and terminate the EO if Biden doesn't on his way out the door. And do you really think Super Cop Harris who was all about using and abusing the "slave class" from private prisons is going to end that money maker? AHAHAHAHAHAH! 2 - It isn't the end of private prisons Biden promised during his campaign, because, and here's the kicker, he can't undo what he helped start from the chair of the presidency. That will require laws passed at the state or federal level, so he actually had more ability to undo the private prison system when he was a Senator campaigning for the presidency than he does as President, and he knew it, and lied to you about it. And lastly the private prison system has nothing to do with the DIA's overreach and the expansion of the DNI's mandate or the looming threat of Patriot Act 2.0 (the previous two things are examples of how they'll leash us with Patriot Act 2.0, it won't be a single large bill, it'll a hundred small expansion of departments that already exist to encompass what the Patriot Act covers so the Patriot Act can be retired to thunderous idiot applause, but which won't matter because a dozen departments will will already be doing what the Patriot Act covered). |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 27, 2021 16:26:06 GMT
So right now, you're pointing fingers and yelling before anything has been done about it yet. Weird, because the things I've spoken of in thread are things happening right now you ignoramus. Expanding the DNI's reach by redefining it's role in "threat assessment" and the fact the DIA is allowed to purchase data that because the seller isn't classifying it properly as "USA Citizen metadata" and thus getting around needing a warrant is happening right now. Patriot Act 2.0 will come because the Congress is worried about Insurrection Part: Hang 'Em High Boogaloo. An EO promising to end the contract with 2, count them only 2, prisons is not the 'win' against privatized prisons you lefty morons think it is. 1 - It's an EO, he can drop it anytime, and since the contracts don't renew during his presidency, the next President can do what Trump did and terminate the EO if Biden doesn't on his way out the door. And do you really think Super Cop Harris who was all about using and abusing the "slave class" from private prisons is going to end that money maker? AHAHAHAHAHAH! 2 - It isn't the end of private prisons Biden promised during his campaign, because, and here's the kicker, he can't undo what he helped start from the chair of the presidency. That will require laws passed at the state or federal level, so he actually had more ability to undo the private prison system when he was a Senator campaigning for the presidency than he does as President, and he knew it, and lied to you about it. And lastly the private prison system has nothing to do with the DIA's overreach and the expansion of the DNI's mandate or the looming threat of Patriot Act 2.0 (the previous two things are examples of how they'll leash us with Patriot Act 2.0, it won't be a single large bill, it'll a hundred small expansion of departments that already exist to encompass what the Patriot Act covers so the Patriot Act can be retired to thunderous idiot applause, but which won't matter because a dozen departments will will already be doing what the Patriot Act covered). There you go with that word salad... |
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Post by kirinke on Jan 27, 2021 16:26:07 GMT
So basically, you're blaming Biden for stuff that he can't really do anything about. If it's all state and congress' fault, then it's on them to change it. Biden can only pressure them to do what he wants. How's that wall coming along. I understand Mexico hasn't paid for it yet.
Adults are talking here, come back when you've accepted reality.
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Post by evileeyore on Jan 27, 2021 22:51:58 GMT
So basically, you're blaming Biden for stuff that he can't really do anything about. The DIA and DNI are things directly in his control you lackwit. His campaign lies were also completely under his control, and he knew they were lies when he made those promises. It'll come along great, Biden voted to expand it like 8 times as a senator, can't wait for him to really dig in now that's he's president and can build (back) better and more cages for kids on the border like he helped Obama with 8-12 years ago... Can't wait for buyer's remorse to settle in for you. But it won't because you bleat along with what the Left MSM says, so increased war in Syria, more (and less transparent) drone bombings of turban wearing kids in oil rich countries, further selling of our energy infrastructure to China, a return to driving businesses over seas, etc, all will be ignored or portrayed in the most favorable of terms so you'll be happy to lose more and more to the Globalists all because you did your part to "remove a terrible and scary dictator who took away all your rights" (except, well, he didn't take away anyone's rights). |
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Post by kirinke on Jan 27, 2021 23:28:43 GMT
Hasn't happened nail bunny and Trump did try to stage an insurrection, kill congress people and his own vice president. That's more than enough to be glad he's gone.
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Post by evileeyore on Jan 28, 2021 5:17:59 GMT
Hasn't happened nail bunny... What "hasn't happened"? The expansion of the DIA and DNI? Happening. Biden hasn't lied? Did, I just outlined it for you. Biden hasn't voted repeatedly to expand and strengthen the border and use anti-immigrant rhetoric himself? Did. Repeatedly back before Obama, back when the Dems were still pretending they were on the side of the working class citizens of the USA (something fundamental shifted during the Bush Jr and Obama years). Hell, Obama and Biden strengthened the wall and increased the Border Patrol, despite expanding the open borders policy, because the Dems decided that officially they only wanted "the good immigrants", while unofficially doing everything they can at the local levels to make it impossible to send illegals back where they came from 9because local and federal Dems didn't actually see eye-to-eye on that). Biden hasn't sent more troops into Syria to make that clusterfuck worse and kill more American soldiers and turban wearing kids? Did. Two days ago. Biden hasn't ended Trump's EO stopping foreign powers, particularly China, from having influence in and purchasing parts of our energy infrastructure? Yes he damned well did. All that happened. Do you really doubt that Joe "We need to keep illegals out" Biden, Obama's second for 8 years of strengthened borders, won't keep working to increase the border wall? (Just smaller scale, less flamboyantly, so the Lefty MSM can ignore it and let you go back to sleep and forget about all those kids that are still in cages...) |
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Post by kirinke on Jan 28, 2021 19:38:06 GMT
Huh, haven't seen it in the news, care to give out some cites?
And as far as the Obama/Biden years, I'll be concerned with that, when you lot become concerned with past Republican/Trump bull-shit.
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Post by evileeyore on Jan 29, 2021 8:02:22 GMT
Huh, haven't seen it in the news, care to give out some cites? Yahoo is not news, it is bread, circuses, and propaganda for the left. And cites for what? Everything I've said has been in the MSM over the years (or right now). Maybe start paying attention when shit happens. Learn how to use google and expand your sources beyond yahoo's "aggregate". Which "lot" is that? The group that didn't vote for Trump? Forget who you were talking to again? And why should I care about Trump, everything he did that Biden doesn't† like, he'll get around to EOing out, and everything Trump did that Biden does‡ like will be quietly left in or expanded on. † Mostly stuff I approved of like border wall expansions, denying immigrants, turning away trans from the military, reducing our military presence in foreign wars, the Keystone pipeline, bringing jobs back to America, denying China a foothold in our energy infrastructure, etc. ‡ Mostly stuff I didn't approve of like expanding tax breaks for the rich, making drone strikes secret.... hmmmm. There were a few other things, but I'm drawing a blank right now. |
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Post by kirinke on Jan 29, 2021 12:34:09 GMT
Border wall expansions where we don't need it, with materials that are so substandard they blow down in a strong wind (or can be climbed or sawn through over with ease) with building contracts awarded to presidential cronies, denying immigrants a path to citizenship, denying people who can shoot straight and full-fill their obligations to the military, making sure foreign companies can't use imminent domain on our citizens for their crappy, leak-prone pipe-lines running through sacred indigenous lands and critical watersheds..... Yeah. Nice. Not.
Bringing back jobs is okay as long as it doesn't poison the land/water/air. Denying China is fine. Doing so through stupid trade wars that hurt our people more is not fine.
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Post by cyphersmith on Jan 29, 2021 16:52:34 GMT
† Mostly stuff I approved of like border wall expansions, denying immigrants, turning away trans from the military This right here tells me that you're a piece of shit. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 29, 2021 17:54:24 GMT
† Mostly stuff I approved of like border wall expansions, denying immigrants, turning away trans from the military This right here tells me that you're a piece of shit. So you're saying that anyone who wants sovereign nations to exert their sovereignty, to protect the rights of legal immigrants over illegal aliens, and who understands that transgenders in the military will negatively impact military readiness are all pieces of shit. |
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Post by kirinke on Jan 29, 2021 18:28:05 GMT
How will transgenders in the military affect military readiness? If you can shoot straight and the full-fill physical and mental requirements, your sexuality shouldn't matter.
Get out of the 1850s dude. It's the 21st century.
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Post by cyphersmith on Jan 29, 2021 19:08:53 GMT
This right here tells me that you're a piece of shit. So you're saying that anyone who wants sovereign nations to exert their sovereignty, Nope, other than upgrading the walls, they're pretty much a waste of money and do damage to the environment. This could be done much better with more people and technology. Immigration is how this country came to be, and it keeps our country alive and working. Cutting immigration as much as we have is not a good thing. You're wrong here, and you're a piece of shit as well for all of this, but mostly for the last one. It doesn't effect the military readiness. Any more than allowing women to serve on ships and submarines does. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 29, 2021 22:15:08 GMT
So you're saying that anyone who wants sovereign nations to exert their sovereignty, Nope, other than upgrading the walls, they're pretty much a waste of money and do damage to the environment. This could be done much better with more people and technology. Immigration is how this country came to be, and it keeps our country alive and working. Cutting immigration as much as we have is not a good thing. You're wrong here, and you're a piece of shit as well for all of this, but mostly for the last one. It doesn't effect the military readiness. Any more than allowing women to serve on ships and submarines does. Sovereign nations that don't exercise their sovereignty aren't nations. Why should the US be treated any differently than any other nation exercising their sovereignty by establishing border controls and requirements for immigration? Try just going to Australia. No visa, no entry, no exceptions. Fleeing East Timor? Yeah, they'll stick you in a prison in the outback desert and figure out what to do with you later. Japan? Even people of Japanese descent but born in other countries who speak and read the language fluently have been denied citizenship. Central Americans coming to the US? Good luck trying to get through Mexico without the federales robbing and raping you and sending you back... As to military readiness: Joe Smith joins the marines and becomes an infantryman. Joe needs to pass the PFT's 3 mile run, pushups, pullups, crunches, and a body composition test every year. Joe fails a PFT because he's overweight with a 24% body fat and only managed 2 pull-ups. Joe throws on a dress and lipstick and declares he's transitioning. Does he now pass because he's within the standard for females of his age? What do the others in his platoon (men and women) think of Josephine's integrity and trustworthiness? How much ridicule will be thrown at Joe? At what point does the command reassign Joe or someone else when they express unease serving with someone who's cheating a PFT and isn't carrying their own load? Or the holy rollers in the platoon who are going to constantly evangelize to Joe that he's going to hell. Joe can't take it anymore and eats a bullet. Now the command has a safety stand down and everyone has to take additional sensitivity training. But that isn't enough, so the brass relieves the CO, XO, and Cmd Sgt Maj. Tell me again how that doesn't affect readiness? |
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Post by kirinke on Jan 29, 2021 23:06:12 GMT
It's called discipline. Holy rollers and the rest need to maintain their own discipline, just the same as trans do. Harassment of any sort is against good discipline. As for the rest, even females have standards they have to meet. If you can't meet it, you don't get in.
So strawman argument. Honestly 3cat, you're just phobic.
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