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Post by kirinke on Sept 22, 2020 14:00:44 GMT
56 Mistakes that were acknowledged and corrected. Over a period of several years. Do you know how many stories are printed in that time? Hundreds.
How many times has Trump lied for example, doubled down on it and never retracted it? To many to count and yet you say you don't care one whit about it.
Hypocrisy.
We really should hold the President of the United States to a higher standard. But you let him slide.
But yet you complain about the media making mistakes.
I laugh.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 26, 2020 12:05:01 GMT
In other words, you either don't have them, they aren't legit or are from old sources. Making broad statements without cites does not make anyone believe you.
Viral load and infectiousness are two totally different things. As I noted earlier, you can't use viral load to determine infection risks at least from my sources. Yours could be well outdated or from sources that aren't properly peer-reviewed. Note: science changes all the time. If the source is from 2019 or very early in the year, it could well be inaccurate.
As noted I said not exactly true. Read the link. Also, they were being overly cautious, as the very simple fact of the matter that even one infected person can spread the disease to many others. I'd personally rather them be overly cautious than risk people dying.
Okay. Let's wade through the crazy here. We did have a shortage of masks in the beginning and it needed to go to first responders, health professionals and the most vulnerable first. That's simple logistics. I can understand that. Also, in the beginning, it wasn't very clear how the disease was transmitted. Later, when they realized the disease was transmitted through aerosolization and that it could spread very far. I mean, there are tons of videos on how far cough/sneeze particles can travel. At least from what I can gather from my own research.
HCQ has been found to not help Covid-19. It may be good for other diseases, but not for Covid-19 and was stopped because of the side effects it caused, which included death. It's been settled, get over it.
The 2005 SARS is a different disease than Covid-19. The treatments and medicines used for it are going to be different.
Okay again with the crazy and incorrect information. Let's try to break this down.
Simply put, Covid-19 spreads quicker than H1N1/other flus and is more deadly. Covid-19 is not a flu.
How many people have died due to Covid-19 in the US alone? Jesus 3cat, it is fatal for alot of people and has serious complications for those who survive it. Where do you get your information from Fox News or Breibart?
I rest my case. |
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Post by kirinke on Sept 26, 2020 12:56:18 GMT
No you really don't. This is planning scenarios.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 26, 2020 13:30:32 GMT
No you really don't. This is planning scenarios. So now you don't want to trust the medical experts? The most likely model clearly indicates that COVID is nowhere near as deadly as you've been led to believe. But hey, continue reacting with emotion, instead of logic and reason, exactly as the MSM wants you to. |
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Post by kirinke on Sept 26, 2020 13:49:39 GMT
The link you supplied was for planning scenarios. Not the reality of the situation. Do read the links before you post them.
Honestly 3cat, you aren't helping yourself like you think you are.
Here is the link for the actual numbers at the CDC:
Differences between Covid-19 and the flu:
The main reason why Covid-19 is so much more deadly than the flu right now is we have no vaccine and no effective treatment for it. It's we we should wear masks, practice social distancing, wash hands regularly and have lockdowns. It's not the flu.
The reason why the US is not following Sweden's move is because A: Sweden is much less populated than the US and the population is far more spread out than the US. The US population also has a greater amount of people with underlying health issues that makes Covid-19 more deadly.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 26, 2020 14:31:49 GMT
The link you supplied was for planning scenarios. Not the reality of the situation. Do read the links before you post them.
Honestly 3cat, you aren't helping yourself like you think you are.
Here is the link for the actual numbers at the CDC:
Differences between Covid-19 and the flu:
The main reason why Covid-19 is so much more deadly than the flu right now is we have no vaccine and no effective treatment for it. It's we we should wear masks, practice social distancing, wash hands regularly and have lockdowns. It's not the flu.
The reason why the US is not following Sweden's move is because A: Sweden is much less populated than the US and the population is far more spread out than the US. The US population also has a greater amount of people with underlying health issues that makes Covid-19 more deadly.
You keep on about it not being the flu yet the CDCs updated models pretty clearly indicate it is on par with the flu regarding IFR. But you go right ahead and continue hiding in your basement. |
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Post by kirinke on Sept 26, 2020 14:33:31 GMT
It is not the flu. It's not even in the same class of diseases as the flu! What part of that don't you understand?! And you wonder why I don't trust anything you say!
And for the record, I don't have a basement! I practice reasonable precautions, instead of you apparently. Do you really want to die from having your lungs turn to goo at the same time as your heart being shredded from Covid-19? The flu doesn't do that.
I swear if Trump tells you to walk over there, you'll cheerfully do as he says and never realize he's directing you to walk over a cliff. Like a lemming.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 26, 2020 14:53:27 GMT
It is not the flu. It's not even in the same class of diseases as the flu! What part of that don't you understand?! And you wonder why I don't trust anything you say!
And for the record, I don't have a basement! I practice reasonable precautions, instead of you apparently. Do you really want to die from having your lungs turn to goo at the same time as your heart being shredded from Covid-19? The flu doesn't do that.
I swear if Trump tells you to walk over there, you'll cheerfully do as he says and never realize he's directing you to walk over a cliff. Like a lemming.
You obviously are completely unable to understand how to parse a sentence in the English language. "On par" =/= "is." Given that the CDC indicates that >99% if anyone under age 50 that gets COVID-19 survives with no complications, I'm not worried in the least. But that's because I apply logic and reason to be decisions instead of knee-jerk reaction based upon manipulated emotions. |
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Post by kirinke on Sept 26, 2020 15:44:18 GMT
That may be because you don't have any underlying health issues. For those that do, it is a problem and a hell of alot of people in the US do have underlying health issues. Either knowingly or unknowingly. From what basic research I did, at least 45% of the US population has an underlying health issue that would make Covid-19 deadly. If you don't congrads.
With your cavalier attitude, you are putting those people at risk and I think that's horrible in of itself. So fuck you. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 26, 2020 18:44:37 GMT
That may be because you don't have any underlying health issues. For those that do, it is a problem and a hell of alot of people in the US do have underlying health issues. Either knowingly or unknowingly. From what basic research I did, at least 45% of the US population has an underlying health issue that would make Covid-19 deadly. If you don't congrads.
With your cavalier attitude, you are putting those people at risk and I think that's horrible in of itself. So fuck you. It doesn't make it deadly for 45% of the population. It increases risk. Probabilistic Risk Assessment. I don't expect you to grasp the concept. |
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Post by kirinke on Sept 26, 2020 21:38:41 GMT
You're splitting hairs there 3cat. If 45% (or more) of the population is at greater risk of dying from the disease if they have underlying health issues, that makes it pretty deadly. Logic is obviously not your strong suit.
We also have no effective treatment for Covid-19. So if you get it and you got an underlying health issue, the chances of you dying are pretty good.
Sorry. In terms of logic and reason, yours suck. So fuck you and your baseless twitter theories.
Real science is not on your side....
Or anybody's really in this case.
Oiii. Vey.
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 27, 2020 0:22:17 GMT
You're splitting hairs there 3cat. If 45% (or more) of the population is at greater risk of dying from the disease if they have underlying health issues, that makes it pretty deadly. Logic is obviously not your strong suit.
We also have no effective treatment for Covid-19. So if you get it and you got an underlying health issue, the chances of you dying are pretty good.
Sorry. In terms of logic and reason, yours suck. So fuck you and your baseless twitter theories.
Real science is not on your side....
Or anybody's really in this case.
Oiii. Vey.
You obviously are unable to grasp the concept. 45% of the population aren't going to have 100% chance of being hospitalized or dying if they catch COVID. www.covidodds.com. My risk (49 yr old male, 2 pre-existing conditions) ~ 5% chance to be hospitalized and 0.31% to die. Those aren't "pretty good" odds in favor of your logic. I'll take those odds any day of the week. |
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Post by kirinke on Sept 27, 2020 13:53:45 GMT
Go right ahead. Where do you want the flowers sent? Because let's face it, in any game of chance, the house usually wins and the house ain't you or I for that matter.
Personally, I'm going to play it safe and stay the fuck away from Darwin Award Recipients like you. Here's yer sign!
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 27, 2020 20:57:18 GMT
Go right ahead. Where do you want the flowers sent? Because let's face it, in any game of chance, the house usually wins and the house ain't you or I for that matter.
Personally, I'm going to play it safe and stay the fuck away from Darwin Award Recipients like you. Here's yer sign!
The fact that you consider 95% chance of not being hospitalized and 99.69% chance of, if hospitalized, not dying, to not be odds be in your favor is clear proof that your aren't a rational thinker and aren't to be taken seriously. |
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Post by kirinke on Sept 27, 2020 21:13:58 GMT
Uh-huh. Go on to your rallies without a mask then. I'll be sipping my coffee safe and alive at home and practicing sensible precautions.
By the by, what flowers do you like? You'll need them to go along with that final Darwin Award. It's only proper manners and all. I'd hate to be improper you know, it just wouldn't be cricket.
In other words, I think you're being stupid. Really, really, really stupid. Like wandering around the Serengeti wearing raw Gazelle steaks accessories and not having a weapon handy stupid.
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