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Post by Maxperson on Mar 18, 2021 22:34:32 GMT
I got my first Covid-19 vaccination dose! Whoo-hoo! My second dose is Apr 14th.
Max, you're never going to be able to convince 3cat. He's too far down the QAnon and Anti-Vaxxer rabbit hole for that. That rabbit hole is like a black hole. Things fall in, they never come out.
I got mine yesterday. |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 18, 2021 22:37:18 GMT
Good for you. Even if it doesn't protect you against all of the variants, at least it gives some protection. So, still wear the mask.
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 19, 2021 21:47:04 GMT
Who the hell said anything about a hoax? What I said was that because the number of people who have gotten covid is vastly understated, the number of dead as a percentage is much much lower than a advertised. It's the denominator problem. When you have multiple millions of people who have gotten it, the IFR and CFR are much much lower than advertised. And again, the percentage is entirely irrelevant. It's a Red Herring you and your side trot out in a futile attempt to trivialize the numbers who have died. All the higher number of people who have gotten it means is that it's even MORE transmittable and even MORE protections need to be used. Regardless of the percentage who have died, we are over half a million dead in the span of a year. That's insanely high. In the big scheme of things, it's just dead people. The numbers are irrelevant because something was gonna get 'em. Ask yourself why we never bothered to characterize pneumonia deaths before now. Why we never counted people suspected of dying from the flu as a non-ILI death when their flu test came back negative. *Because* people who get sick during cold and flu season vastly outnumber those who get really sick and die but we never bother counting them because we aren't concerned with looking in the first place. COVID infections are anywhere from 6x to 20x the official numbers - even more when you eliminate all the false positives from there official count. A vaccine so safe they are forcing you to take it - for a virus so deadly most people don't know they had it until they test positive for antibodies later on. The IFR and CFR have been vastly overstated. The infection curves for every state converges regardless of whether it is a lockdown mando-mask state or a free state. The exact same thing happens in all the European countries. In Asia. In S. America. Infection curves converge regardless of non-pharmaceutical intervention. Period. Translation: non-pharmaceutical interventions (masks, lockdowns, distancing) are irrelevant. The stats show this, rather than the curves diverging for locales with lockdowns and masks vs those without. Had they diverged the, one could determine that the measures had an effect. |
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Post by cyphersmith on Mar 19, 2021 23:03:13 GMT
And again, the percentage is entirely irrelevant. It's a Red Herring you and your side trot out in a futile attempt to trivialize the numbers who have died. All the higher number of people who have gotten it means is that it's even MORE transmittable and even MORE protections need to be used. Regardless of the percentage who have died, we are over half a million dead in the span of a year. That's insanely high. In the big scheme of things, it's just dead people. The numbers are irrelevant because something was gonna get 'em. Ask yourself why we never bothered to characterize pneumonia deaths before now. Why we never counted people suspected of dying from the flu as a non-ILI death when their flu test came back negative. *Because* people who get sick during cold and flu season vastly outnumber those who get really sick and die but we never bother counting them because we aren't concerned with looking in the first place. COVID infections are anywhere from 6x to 20x the official numbers - even more when you eliminate all the false positives from there official count. A vaccine so safe they are forcing you to take it - for a virus so deadly most people don't know they had it until they test positive for antibodies later on. The IFR and CFR have been vastly overstated. The infection curves for every state converges regardless of whether it is a lockdown mando-mask state or a free state. The exact same thing happens in all the European countries. In Asia. In S. America. Infection curves converge regardless of non-pharmaceutical intervention. Period. Translation: non-pharmaceutical interventions (masks, lockdowns, distancing) are irrelevant. The stats show this, rather than the curves diverging for locales with lockdowns and masks vs those without. Had they diverged the, one could determine that the measures had an effect. That's like saying it's not murder to shoot someone (against their will) who has a terminal disease because they're going to die soon anyway. That's pure bullshit. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 19, 2021 23:09:55 GMT
In the big scheme of things, it's just dead people. The numbers are irrelevant because something was gonna get 'em. Ask yourself why we never bothered to characterize pneumonia deaths before now. Why we never counted people suspected of dying from the flu as a non-ILI death when their flu test came back negative. *Because* people who get sick during cold and flu season vastly outnumber those who get really sick and die but we never bother counting them because we aren't concerned with looking in the first place. COVID infections are anywhere from 6x to 20x the official numbers - even more when you eliminate all the false positives from there official count. A vaccine so safe they are forcing you to take it - for a virus so deadly most people don't know they had it until they test positive for antibodies later on. The IFR and CFR have been vastly overstated. The infection curves for every state converges regardless of whether it is a lockdown mando-mask state or a free state. The exact same thing happens in all the European countries. In Asia. In S. America. Infection curves converge regardless of non-pharmaceutical intervention. Period. Translation: non-pharmaceutical interventions (masks, lockdowns, distancing) are irrelevant. The stats show this, rather than the curves diverging for locales with lockdowns and masks vs those without. Had they diverged the, one could determine that the measures had an effect. That's like saying it's not murder to shoot someone (against their will) who has a terminal disease because they're going to die soon anyway. That's pure bullshit. Doesn't make it not true. *So* many of the deaths attributed to COVID are associated with people who have multiple comorbidities. A 4th stage cancer patient is so immunocompromised that any opportunistic infection can take them out, for example, yet many places report those deaths as covid. In 2019, a cystic fibrosis patient who died from bacterial pneumonia or c. dificile after catching the flu would not have had flu listed as the cause of death. In 2020 - eh - it's covid what killed 'em... |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 20, 2021 0:00:07 GMT
Which, it did. When the infection kills somebody, they die from the infection. It's not rocket science.
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 20, 2021 0:07:15 GMT
And again, the percentage is entirely irrelevant. It's a Red Herring you and your side trot out in a futile attempt to trivialize the numbers who have died. All the higher number of people who have gotten it means is that it's even MORE transmittable and even MORE protections need to be used. Regardless of the percentage who have died, we are over half a million dead in the span of a year. That's insanely high. In the big scheme of things, it's just dead people. The numbers are irrelevant because something was gonna get 'em. Ask yourself why we never bothered to characterize pneumonia deaths before now. Why we never counted people suspected of dying from the flu as a non-ILI death when their flu test came back negative. *Because* people who get sick during cold and flu season vastly outnumber those who get really sick and die but we never bother counting them because we aren't concerned with looking in the first place. COVID infections are anywhere from 6x to 20x the official numbers - even more when you eliminate all the false positives from there official count. A vaccine so safe they are forcing you to take it - for a virus so deadly most people don't know they had it until they test positive for antibodies later on. The IFR and CFR have been vastly overstated. The infection curves for every state converges regardless of whether it is a lockdown mando-mask state or a free state. The exact same thing happens in all the European countries. In Asia. In S. America. Infection curves converge regardless of non-pharmaceutical intervention. Period. Translation: non-pharmaceutical interventions (masks, lockdowns, distancing) are irrelevant. The stats show this, rather than the curves diverging for locales with lockdowns and masks vs those without. Had they diverged the, one could determine that the measures had an effect. Yeah, you're right! Let's push the button and set off a nuclear war. It's just dead people after all and you were going to die anyway!! Fucking idiot. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 20, 2021 12:39:33 GMT
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Post by Devoid on Mar 20, 2021 13:44:24 GMT
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 20, 2021 15:00:30 GMT
Dude. You literally just said people's lives are worthless and it doesn't matter if they die, because they are going to die anyway. You're weak attempts to belittle the pandemic in order to try and be right are pathetic. |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 20, 2021 15:26:23 GMT
He doesn't get it. When both the left and right on the board are saying that he's wrong, he can't comprehend it.
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 20, 2021 20:40:14 GMT
He doesn't get it. When both the left and right on the board are saying that he's wrong, he can't comprehend it. I'm not really that "right." I'm more middle with maybe 60-65% of my views leaning right and the rest leaning left. |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 20, 2021 21:40:14 GMT
You're still right.  But you're relatively reasonable. You're just not QAnon or Anti-Vaxxer right which is it's own special brand of crazy. Kinda like how AOC is the left's special brand of cray-cray. Fuck em both. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 21, 2021 2:17:01 GMT
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 21, 2021 3:16:19 GMT
_https://m.theepochtimes.com/studies-hundreds-of-thousands-infected-with-covid-19-in-wuhan-in-2020-patient-zero-emerged-october-2019_3741748.html?&utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&email=naomiwolf6@gmail.com&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-03-20-3 And again... *Everything* I've been saying about this continues to prove true. Remember I said at least 10x as many Chinese for the wuflu than as reported? Almost 1 million in Wuhan vs the 50k the Chicoms reported. And as early as I've said before - October 2019. Once again, the number of people who've actually gotten the wuflu is vastly underestimated which makes the IFR and CFR vastly lower than reported. A Gallup study also is showing that the majority of people vastly overestimate the number of those infected who require hospitalization. View AttachmentProve that lives are irrelevant due to the fact that we all die. You've said that several times. Edit: Also, get some reliable sources. |
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But you're relatively reasonable. You're just not QAnon or Anti-Vaxxer right which is it's own special brand of crazy. Kinda like how AOC is the left's special brand of cray-cray. Fuck em both.