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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 21, 2021 13:10:30 GMT
_https://m.theepochtimes.com/studies-hundreds-of-thousands-infected-with-covid-19-in-wuhan-in-2020-patient-zero-emerged-october-2019_3741748.html?&utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&email=naomiwolf6@gmail.com&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-03-20-3 And again... *Everything* I've been saying about this continues to prove true. Remember I said at least 10x as many Chinese for the wuflu than as reported? Almost 1 million in Wuhan vs the 50k the Chicoms reported. And as early as I've said before - October 2019. Once again, the number of people who've actually gotten the wuflu is vastly underestimated which makes the IFR and CFR vastly lower than reported. A Gallup study also is showing that the majority of people vastly overestimate the number of those infected who require hospitalization. View AttachmentProve that lives are irrelevant due to the fact that we all die. You've said that several times. Edit: Also, get some reliable sources. Gallup isn't a reliable source? Tell that to every politician who uses their polls... The Lancet isn't a reliable source? One of the most widely-respected publications in Medicine - not reliable, hmm? |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 21, 2021 13:37:51 GMT
It's how you use the sources. I mean, when you use 20 year old studies that have nothing to do with Covid-19, then people tend to not trust your cites.
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 21, 2021 14:17:54 GMT
It's how you use the sources. I mean, when you use 20 year old studies that have nothing to do with Covid-19, then people tend to not trust your cites. Translation: "I didn't bother reading the study because I'm too lazy, too stupid to understand it, or because it isn't being forcefed into my head from Yahoo." It's a study from last year, you dolt. |
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 21, 2021 15:36:56 GMT
Prove that lives are irrelevant due to the fact that we all die. You've said that several times. Edit: Also, get some reliable sources. Gallup isn't a reliable source? Tell that to every politician who uses their polls... The Lancet isn't a reliable source? One of the most widely-respected publications in Medicine - not reliable, hmm? Gallup isn't the problem there. The poll you are quoting as proof is. The poll is just asking Joe Shmoe to guess at who needs to be hospitalized. Well duh! Joe Shmoe not being a doctor is going to guess wrong. The guesses of lay people are irrelevant to anything and everything going. You article is from an iffy source and the science journal it's using made lots of assumptions and guesses to get where it was at. I'm not sure what you are trying to show with the Lancet. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 21, 2021 16:43:00 GMT
Gallup isn't a reliable source? Tell that to every politician who uses their polls... The Lancet isn't a reliable source? One of the most widely-respected publications in Medicine - not reliable, hmm? Gallup isn't the problem there. The poll you are quoting as proof is. The poll is just asking Joe Shmoe to guess at who needs to be hospitalized. Well duh! Joe Shmoe not being a doctor is going to guess wrong. The guesses of lay people are irrelevant to anything and everything going. You article is from an iffy source and the science journal it's using made lots of assumptions and guesses to get where it was at. I'm not sure what you are trying to show with the Lancet. Joe Schmoe *is* the point. Media and corrupt government have convinced people that covid is as deadly as ebola. When less than 5% of people who catch covid need hospitalization, it's not Black Death 2 - Electric Boogaloo. It's a nuisance. The Lancet article and Science Daily article are trying to illustrate the point that a lot more people caught covid and a lot earlier than the Chicom's led the world to believe. The effect of this is, besides the conclusion of vaccination which is for the midwits, the deeper conclusion is that a lot more people overall throughout the world have gotten it and it's been out there for far longer than the start of the panic last March. The logical conclusion is that even if the unhealthy are dying due to complications resulting after infection, the denominator in the IFR and CFR is a lot larger than health and government agencies are using - which means that covid isn't as really as the public had been less to believe. Most people don't understand that covid-19 itself is generally no more severe than flu or a cold. They think it instantly leads to death instead of understanding that some people can suffer ARDS or an opportunistic bacterial pneumonia - which is what *actually* is the cause of death. Ask yourself a common sense question. Covid-19 is a betacoronavirus. All betacoronaviruses are strongly seasonal. Often, people are asymptomatic - for any of the coronaviruses. How many people are trying infected by various colds and flu - and how many different strains of them, each year? The answer is *no one* knows how many people are infected with other strains of coronaviruses, rhinoviruses, or flu each year because we've never specifically looked for them and tried to test everyone. If we did, we'd see that the vast majority of people get *something* every year. It will be the same way with covid-19. Additionally, hiding out prevents your immune system from having things to react and adapt to - resulting in people getting sicker from other viruses than they would have if they went on with their lives. Every year in the winter, people are going to get covid-19. Every year, pharma will guess which strain to make vaccines for. Unless we all stop acting like sheep, the entire world will continue in lockdown and masks indefinitely - until the entire existing governments are completely replaced by people with common sense or until our immune systems are so weak that the air itself will kill us. |
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 21, 2021 18:07:04 GMT
Gallup isn't the problem there. The poll you are quoting as proof is. The poll is just asking Joe Shmoe to guess at who needs to be hospitalized. Well duh! Joe Shmoe not being a doctor is going to guess wrong. The guesses of lay people are irrelevant to anything and everything going. You article is from an iffy source and the science journal it's using made lots of assumptions and guesses to get where it was at. I'm not sure what you are trying to show with the Lancet. Joe Schmoe *is* the point. Media and corrupt government have convinced people that covid is as deadly as ebola. When less than 5% of people who catch covid need hospitalization, it's not Black Death 2 - Electric Boogaloo. It's a nuisance. The Lancet article and Science Daily article are trying to illustrate the point that a lot more people caught covid and a lot earlier than the Chicom's led the world to believe. The effect of this is, besides the conclusion of vaccination which is for the midwits, the deeper conclusion is that a lot more people overall throughout the world have gotten it and it's been out there for far longer than the start of the panic last March. The logical conclusion is that even if the unhealthy are dying due to complications resulting after infection, the denominator in the IFR and CFR is a lot larger than health and government agencies are using - which means that covid isn't as really as the public had been less to believe. Most people don't understand that covid-19 itself is generally no more severe than flu or a cold. They think it instantly leads to death instead of understanding that some people can suffer ARDS or an opportunistic bacterial pneumonia - which is what *actually* is the cause of death. Ask yourself a common sense question. Covid-19 is a betacoronavirus. All betacoronaviruses are strongly seasonal. Often, people are asymptomatic - for any of the coronaviruses. How many people are trying infected by various colds and flu - and how many different strains of them, each year? The answer is *no one* knows how many people are infected with other strains of coronaviruses, rhinoviruses, or flu each year because we've never specifically looked for them and tried to test everyone. If we did, we'd see that the vast majority of people get *something* every year. It will be the same way with covid-19. Additionally, hiding out prevents your immune system from having things to react and adapt to - resulting in people getting sicker from other viruses than they would have if they went on with their lives. Every year in the winter, people are going to get covid-19. Every year, pharma will guess which strain to make vaccines for. Unless we all stop acting like sheep, the entire world will continue in lockdown and masks indefinitely - until the entire existing governments are completely replaced by people with common sense or until our immune systems are so weak that the air itself will kill us. It's only a nuisance to you, because you view life as worthless, since "everyone is going to eventually die anyway." To the rest of us who can see facts and actually respect life, 500k+ deaths in 1 year is the entire point. It doesn't matter if only 5% are hospitalized, or if .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% die. Those rates are a Red Herring by you in order to trivialize and ignore the 500k deaths. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 21, 2021 19:28:08 GMT
Joe Schmoe *is* the point. Media and corrupt government have convinced people that covid is as deadly as ebola. When less than 5% of people who catch covid need hospitalization, it's not Black Death 2 - Electric Boogaloo. It's a nuisance. The Lancet article and Science Daily article are trying to illustrate the point that a lot more people caught covid and a lot earlier than the Chicom's led the world to believe. The effect of this is, besides the conclusion of vaccination which is for the midwits, the deeper conclusion is that a lot more people overall throughout the world have gotten it and it's been out there for far longer than the start of the panic last March. The logical conclusion is that even if the unhealthy are dying due to complications resulting after infection, the denominator in the IFR and CFR is a lot larger than health and government agencies are using - which means that covid isn't as really as the public had been less to believe. Most people don't understand that covid-19 itself is generally no more severe than flu or a cold. They think it instantly leads to death instead of understanding that some people can suffer ARDS or an opportunistic bacterial pneumonia - which is what *actually* is the cause of death. Ask yourself a common sense question. Covid-19 is a betacoronavirus. All betacoronaviruses are strongly seasonal. Often, people are asymptomatic - for any of the coronaviruses. How many people are trying infected by various colds and flu - and how many different strains of them, each year? The answer is *no one* knows how many people are infected with other strains of coronaviruses, rhinoviruses, or flu each year because we've never specifically looked for them and tried to test everyone. If we did, we'd see that the vast majority of people get *something* every year. It will be the same way with covid-19. Additionally, hiding out prevents your immune system from having things to react and adapt to - resulting in people getting sicker from other viruses than they would have if they went on with their lives. Every year in the winter, people are going to get covid-19. Every year, pharma will guess which strain to make vaccines for. Unless we all stop acting like sheep, the entire world will continue in lockdown and masks indefinitely - until the entire existing governments are completely replaced by people with common sense or until our immune systems are so weak that the air itself will kill us. It's only a nuisance to you, because you view life as worthless, since "everyone is going to eventually die anyway." To the rest of us who can see facts and actually respect life, 500k+ deaths in 1 year is the entire point. It doesn't matter if only 5% are hospitalized, or if .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% die. Those rates are a Red Herring by you in order to trivialize and ignore the 500k deaths. So how come there is no full court press on heart disease and cancer from you if the absolute numbers are so important to you? Each of them has killed 500k or more each year for quite some time. Just admit you have no idea what you are talking about and have become a believer in living a zero-risk life. The rest of the want to get back to living our lives. Rates are entirely more important than absolute numbers. I'd explain it to you but there's a lot of math involved. You can join Sleepy Joe and the rest of the midwits in kirinke's basement. |
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 21, 2021 20:08:29 GMT
It's only a nuisance to you, because you view life as worthless, since "everyone is going to eventually die anyway." To the rest of us who can see facts and actually respect life, 500k+ deaths in 1 year is the entire point. It doesn't matter if only 5% are hospitalized, or if .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% die. Those rates are a Red Herring by you in order to trivialize and ignore the 500k deaths. So how come there is no full court press on heart disease and cancer from you if the absolute numbers are so important to you? Each of them has killed 500k or more each year for quite some time. You mean those things that have had a campaign of awareness for decades? And those things that you cannot catch more easily than a common cold from someone who has them? Those things that your False Equivalence renders invalid? C'mon man. Think before you post. Come up with something that is at least in the same ballpark! Put another way. If wearing a mask could save the lives of a million people a year and prevent heart disease and cancer, you bet your ass I'd wear a mask. Unlike you, I actually value the lives of others. |
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Post by Devoid on Mar 21, 2021 21:14:11 GMT
As an aside, why do people "like" their own posts? Is it a self-validation thing, or perhaps a fat-fingering moment?
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 21, 2021 21:17:16 GMT
As an aside, why do people "like" their own posts? Is it a self-validation thing, or perhaps a fat-fingering moment? If it was me, it was a fat-finger moment of some sort. I have no idea why they'd do it intentionally. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 21, 2021 22:36:51 GMT
As an aside, why do people "like" their own posts? Is it a self-validation thing, or perhaps a fat-fingering moment? It's a fat finger thing. The like button is right next to the edit button. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 21, 2021 22:41:36 GMT
So how come there is no full court press on heart disease and cancer from you if the absolute numbers are so important to you? Each of them has killed 500k or more each year for quite some time. You mean those things that have had a campaign of awareness for decades? And those things that you cannot catch more easily than a common cold from someone who has them? Those things that your False Equivalence renders invalid? C'mon man. Think before you post. Come up with something that is at least in the same ballpark! Put another way. If wearing a mask could save the lives of a million people a year and prevent heart disease and cancer, you bet your ass I'd wear a mask. Unlike you, I actually value the lives of others. Decades of awareness and still close to a million deaths every year. It's such a simple thing to end heart disease and cancer - take away any food that tastes better than cardboard by making it illegal to sell anything with too much fat, sugar, or salt and then have the police force people to exercise every day for an hour. Because that's essentially what they are doing with mask mandates and lockdowns - forcing people to do something that they have no legal authority to do. |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 21, 2021 22:42:55 GMT
See? Reasonable.
Wearing a mask won't kill you. Sure, it's a might uncomfortable if you don't get one that suits you, but hell, it's better than dying or causing somebody else to die due to your own selfishness.
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Post by 3catcircus on Mar 21, 2021 23:11:00 GMT
See? Reasonable.
Wearing a mask won't kill you. Sure, it's a might uncomfortable if you don't get one that suits you, but hell, it's better than dying or causing somebody else to die due to your own selfishness.
If you're worried about getting COVID-19, wear a mask and get vaccinated, if you are not worried, then don't. Learn to take care of your own life and stop dictating what other people should do. |
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 22, 2021 0:11:01 GMT
You mean those things that have had a campaign of awareness for decades? And those things that you cannot catch more easily than a common cold from someone who has them? Those things that your False Equivalence renders invalid? C'mon man. Think before you post. Come up with something that is at least in the same ballpark! Put another way. If wearing a mask could save the lives of a million people a year and prevent heart disease and cancer, you bet your ass I'd wear a mask. Unlike you, I actually value the lives of others. Decades of awareness and still close to a million deaths every year. It's such a simple thing to end heart disease and cancer - take away any food that tastes better than cardboard by making it illegal to sell anything with too much fat, sugar, or salt and then have the police force people to exercise every day for an hour. Because that's essentially what they are doing with mask mandates and lockdowns - forcing people to do something that they have no legal authority to do. False Equivalences remain false. Those are not things that are 1) contagious, 2) able to be impacted by mask wearing like Covid is, and 3) able to be cured with a vaccine. You're trying to compare apples and tuna fish. |
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