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Post by kirinke on May 17, 2021 11:11:34 GMT
Simple. Because they're mine! He believes his opinions are better than mine, I believe my opinions are better than his. It's a thing.
Which is why we're not agreeing with each other. Because right now, he believes that all I have are opinion pieces and I believe that all he has are opinion pieces.
Personally, I'm going with the natural explanation, because it makes the most sense. It came from bats. The Wuhan lab theory is just a bunch of wild-eyed right-wing silliness like the Jade Helm nonsense (which both sides amplified because hey, news). That and every article I've actually read on the subject says the Wuhan lab theory is lottery-jackpot winning remote. So... Yeah. Not buying it at all.
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Post by evileeyore on May 17, 2021 11:31:12 GMT
... every article I've actually read on the subject says the Wuhan lab theory is lottery-jackpot winning remote. So every propaganda piece from the CCP or from people financially behind the Wuhan Lab, and you admit to shutting your self into an echo chamber. You do believe in conspiratorial theories.
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Post by 3catcircus on May 17, 2021 23:21:51 GMT
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Post by kirinke on May 17, 2021 23:31:52 GMT
3cat, adults are talking.
I'm not the one promoting the Wuhan lab conspiracy theory. It has no basis in reality. Every single article you've posted is an opinion piece as well. Then you try to gas-light me in claiming I'm promoting conspiracy theories.
Nice try with the Bugs Bunny routine. I applaud it.
Sadly, it failed.
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Post by 3catcircus on May 18, 2021 2:05:16 GMT
3cat, adults are talking.
I'm not the one promoting the Wuhan lab conspiracy theory. It has no basis in reality. Every single article you've posted is an opinion piece as well. Then you try to gas-light me in claiming I'm promoting conspiracy theories.
Nice try with the Bugs Bunny routine. I applaud it.
Sadly, it failed.
Exactly, which is why you can go back to playing with your own faeces while we are talking.
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Post by kirinke on May 18, 2021 11:52:39 GMT
Is that the best you both can do when you are loosing an argument? Gas-lighting (Rather obvious attempt too) and grade-school insults? What next 3cat? Are you going to take your ball and go home? Ohh, wait, you're going to call me an idiot or stupid for not believing right-wing lies and propaganda! Your cup runneth over with clever comebacks. I'm not impressed.
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Post by Maxperson on May 18, 2021 17:08:26 GMT
Is that the best you both can do when you are loosing an argument? Gas-lighting (Rather obvious attempt too) and grade-school insults? What next 3cat? Are you going to take your ball and go home? Ohh, wait, you're going to call me an idiot or stupid for not believing right-wing lies and propaganda! Your cup runneth over with clever comebacks. I'm not impressed. There are no right wing lies or propaganda here, though. No science rules out the research facility as a possible source of Covid. None. All scientists early on said were that it was more likely to be from the wild, so it wasn't from the research facility. That's a faulty conclusion based on guesswork. It could be correct, but the conclusion doesn't automatically follow from the premise. Right now people, including those of us here that aren't you, have realized(actually most of us here realized it right off the bat) that the conclusion was faulty and are saying that the research facility should be looked into as a POSSIBLE source. It's as irrational to state that the research facility is absolutely not the source as it is to state that it absolutely is. Rational minds understand that it could be either one and both should be looked at closely.
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Post by 3catcircus on May 18, 2021 17:49:08 GMT
Is that the best you both can do when you are loosing an argument? Gas-lighting (Rather obvious attempt too) and grade-school insults? What next 3cat? Are you going to take your ball and go home? Ohh, wait, you're going to call me an idiot or stupid for not believing right-wing lies and propaganda! Your cup runneth over with clever comebacks. I'm not impressed. There are no right wing lies or propaganda here, though. No science rules out the research facility as a possible source of Covid. None. All scientists early on said were that it was more likely to be from the wild, so it wasn't from the research facility. That's a faulty conclusion based on guesswork. It could be correct, but the conclusion doesn't automatically follow from the premise. Right now people, including those of us here that aren't you, have realized(actually most of us here realized it right off the bat) that the conclusion was faulty and are saying that the research facility should be looked into as a POSSIBLE source. It's as irrational to state that the research facility is absolutely not the source as it is to state that it absolutely is. Rational minds understand that it could be either one and both should be looked at closely. Here's an interesting read on the probabilities. Some of their starting points may be skewed,but the overall analysis looks to be not bad. www.rootclaim.com/analysis/What-is-the-source-of-COVID-19-SARS-CoV-2
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Post by Libtard on May 18, 2021 18:03:51 GMT
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Post by Maxperson on May 18, 2021 19:04:42 GMT
But kirinke, you are currently stuffing your fingers in your ears and saying "nuh-nuh." In my life I've never heard anyone say, "nuh-nuh." I've heard "Nuh-uh!" I've heard, "Nyuck-nyuck!" But not, "Nuh-nuh."
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Post by kirinke on May 18, 2021 23:02:00 GMT
Because there's no proof that it came from a lab. You've got a lot of what-ifs, but nothing backing it up really. No evidence with an extremely, remote possibility that it came from a lab means in my book, it didn't come from a lab. You guys are like those ancient alien lunatics or Bigfoot believers. Sense and sensibility need not apply. You guys want to find a nefarious plot behind this, when in fact, there was none. Bad shit happens all the time. It's up to our leaders to mitigate it. The Former guy failed miserably in that respect.
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Post by 3catcircus on May 19, 2021 0:50:16 GMT
Because there's no proof that it came from a lab. You've got a lot of what-ifs, but nothing backing it up really. No evidence with an extremely, remote possibility that it came from a lab means in my book, it didn't come from a lab. You guys are like those ancient alien lunatics or Bigfoot believers. Sense and sensibility need not apply. You guys want to find a nefarious plot behind this, when in fact, there was none. Bad shit happens all the time. It's up to our leaders to mitigate it. The Former guy failed miserably in that respect.
No one except you is hardover on the origin. The rest of us have no problems with understanding the very simple idea that either is a plausible origin.
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Post by Maxperson on May 19, 2021 2:46:33 GMT
Because there's no proof that it came from a lab. You've got a lot of what-ifs, but nothing backing it up really. No evidence with an extremely, remote possibility that it came from a lab means in my book, it didn't come from a lab. You guys are like those ancient alien lunatics or Bigfoot believers. Sense and sensibility need not apply. You guys want to find a nefarious plot behind this, when in fact, there was none. Bad shit happens all the time. It's up to our leaders to mitigate it. The Former guy failed miserably in that respect.
There's no proof it came from the wild, either. You've just got assumption. It's also not an "extremely remote possibility" that it came from the lab. It's just more likely to have come from the wild. You need to open up your narrow, closed mind to reasonable possibilities.
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Post by Libtard on May 19, 2021 6:36:35 GMT
Because there's no proof that it came from a lab. You've got a lot of what-ifs, but nothing backing it up really. No evidence with an extremely, remote possibility that it came from a lab means in my book, it didn't come from a lab. You guys are like those ancient alien lunatics or Bigfoot believers. Sense and sensibility need not apply. You guys want to find a nefarious plot behind this, when in fact, there was none. Bad shit happens all the time. It's up to our leaders to mitigate it. The Former guy failed miserably in that respect.
That article is a year old. A lot has come out since then, and the WHO concerns are much more recent.
That article also cites the opinion of one scientist regarding the fidelity and transparency of a Shi Zhengli, a Wuhan Institute virologist employed by the Chinese regime, as somehow decisive in this matter. Which you are free to believe, of course...
There is sufficient cause to doubt the "Natural Causes" narrative. Not disprove it. Doubt it.
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Post by evileeyore on May 19, 2021 7:37:59 GMT
There is sufficient cause to doubt the "Natural Causes" narrative. Not disprove it. Doubt it. There is also an active conspiracy to promote it. that's another reason to demand investigation of the Lab Theory. But that will never happen. At best, continued attempts to find evidence that it was from wild will continue fail. Eventually the WHO, China, and their Western Corporate backers will 'decisively conclude' it was from the wild in another propaganda/opinion piece, and that will be it as far the DNC is concerned. Unless we get strong, intelligent, America first leadership for a considerable length of time, there will never be a shift in China's grip on the UN, WHO, and other global organizations.
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