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Post by 3catcircus on May 24, 2021 16:38:41 GMT
Yeah. I just can't see anybody releasing a bio-weapon like a virus on purpose. It's too omni-directional and fucks up your own side as much (or more) as anyone else's. I mean, the purpose of war is to make the other fucker dead. Not your own people.That was what I was focusing on more than anything. Meh. Miscommunication.
Accidental release is possible, hell the entire wildlife trade theory is pretty much an accidental release theory when you get down to brass tacks, just no lab involved. I'm just going with the more likely scenario, until more facts present themselves. Those wet-markets were/are really unsanitary.
So if you're going to do it, you release it in America or somewhere else far from home. Not that it will prevent it from coming back to you, but at least you aren't being an abject moron and releasing it literally on your doorstep. You also don't ever release it on purpose unless you already have the vaccine/cure. Of course, things mutate, so even that doesn't really work, making any sort of germ warfare idiotic. My guess is that if it turns out that it did come from the Wuhan facility, they were doing some sort of research trying to find a way to render the virus harmless and this attempt made it worse, and then someone screwed up and it was accidentally released into the masses. By the way the way, this was released yesterday. www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/wuhan-lab-staff-sought-hospital-care-before-covid-19-outbreak-disclosed-wsj-2021-05-23/While purposely releasing this to prevent the US from winning a trade war is highly improbable (I find it to be far more likely a simple fuck-up by incompetent lab techs, compounded by asian cultural aversion to providing bad news), the fact remains that communists have never had a problem with sacrificing a few of their proles to achieve their aims. When you consider that a few hundred thousand casualties amongst over one billion screaming Chinamen is *a drop in the bucket* for them, I could see the remote possibility of them doing so, especially when any civilian lab personnel are going to be forced to do whatever the PLA wants them to do. Not probable; not likely; but not beyond the reslm of possibility. |
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Post by Maxperson on May 24, 2021 17:44:32 GMT
So if you're going to do it, you release it in America or somewhere else far from home. Not that it will prevent it from coming back to you, but at least you aren't being an abject moron and releasing it literally on your doorstep. You also don't ever release it on purpose unless you already have the vaccine/cure. Of course, things mutate, so even that doesn't really work, making any sort of germ warfare idiotic. My guess is that if it turns out that it did come from the Wuhan facility, they were doing some sort of research trying to find a way to render the virus harmless and this attempt made it worse, and then someone screwed up and it was accidentally released into the masses. By the way the way, this was released yesterday. www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/wuhan-lab-staff-sought-hospital-care-before-covid-19-outbreak-disclosed-wsj-2021-05-23/While purposely releasing this to prevent the US from winning a trade war is highly improbable (I find it to be far more likely a simple fuck-up by incompetent lab techs, compounded by asian cultural aversion to providing bad news), the fact remains that communists have never had a problem with sacrificing a few of their proles to achieve their aims. When you consider that a few hundred thousand casualties amongst over one billion screaming Chinamen is *a drop in the bucket* for them, I could see the remote possibility of them doing so, especially when any civilian lab personnel are going to be forced to do whatever the PLA wants them to do. Not probable; not likely; but not beyond the reslm of possibility. Sure, but just because they don't have a problem murdering their own, doesn't mean that they are stupid and would start the pandemic right next to the research facility. They would have smuggled it elsewhere and started it away from home. |
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Post by 3catcircus on May 24, 2021 20:03:28 GMT
While purposely releasing this to prevent the US from winning a trade war is highly improbable (I find it to be far more likely a simple fuck-up by incompetent lab techs, compounded by asian cultural aversion to providing bad news), the fact remains that communists have never had a problem with sacrificing a few of their proles to achieve their aims. When you consider that a few hundred thousand casualties amongst over one billion screaming Chinamen is *a drop in the bucket* for them, I could see the remote possibility of them doing so, especially when any civilian lab personnel are going to be forced to do whatever the PLA wants them to do. Not probable; not likely; but not beyond the reslm of possibility. Sure, but just because they don't have a problem murdering their own, doesn't mean that they are stupid and would start the pandemic right next to the research facility. They would have smuggled it elsewhere and started it away from home. Yep, which is why the most likely off the two is a fuck-up that was covered up. |
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Post by kirinke on May 24, 2021 23:29:17 GMT
I saw it. Could be anything as the article says, but still makes you wonder.
Only idiots believe it was done on purpose 3cat. Pure human fuck-ups happen all the time and it's far more believable that it was done by accident if the lab theory is correct.
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Post by Maxperson on May 25, 2021 1:32:30 GMT
I saw it. Could be anything as the article says, but still makes you wonder.
Only idiots believe it was done on purpose 3cat. Pure human fuck-ups happen all the time and it's far more believable that it was done by accident if the lab theory is correct.
Hey! Look at that. Everyone is kinda sorta on the same page now. |
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Post by kirinke on May 25, 2021 11:12:37 GMT
Yeah, I was assuming you guys meant intentional release, which is why I got so mad. Nobody would do that right on their fucking door-step. That's insane. Accidental release is much more plausible. After-all, even the wild-life wet-market theory I personally think is more likely is an accidental-release theory at it's core.
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Post by evileeyore on May 25, 2021 13:42:55 GMT
Yeah, I was assuming you guys meant intentional release... Nope, don't buy it. From jump everyone* who discussed the Wuhan Lab Theory said 'accidental' release, used phrases like "chinese are abysmal at safety protocols", etc. No, you were against solely because it was being presented by 3cat and I, and you cannot conceptualize of the "enemy" ever being right. Now that you've been piled on by board lefties and liberals for being obtusely stupid you're doing this insane backpedal, "Oh, yeah, I'm down with it being a theory and maybe accidental release, I was just against that thing that no one, not even I said I was against, heh, yeah... that's the ticket...". So no, you're still an idiot and you've just proven you have no independent thought of your own. * Everyone except Sadras who pimped the "intentional trade war" nonsense two days ago. |
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Post by Maxperson on May 25, 2021 16:05:00 GMT
Yeah, I was assuming you guys meant intentional release... Nope, don't buy it. From jump everyone* who discussed the Wuhan Lab Theory said 'accidental' release, used phrases like "chinese are abysmal at safety protocols", etc. No, you were against solely because it was being presented by 3cat and I, and you cannot conceptualize of the "enemy" ever being right. Now that you've been piled on by board lefties and liberals for being obtusely stupid you're doing this insane backpedal, "Oh, yeah, I'm down with it being a theory and maybe accidental release, I was just against that thing that no one, not even I said I was against, heh, yeah... that's the ticket...". So no, you're still an idiot and you've just proven you have no independent thought of your own. * Everyone except Sadras who pimped the "intentional trade war" nonsense two days ago. #^$#%!&! I'm not a lefty/liberal. |
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Post by 3catcircus on May 25, 2021 16:22:00 GMT
Yeah, I was assuming you guys meant intentional release... Nope, don't buy it. From jump everyone* who discussed the Wuhan Lab Theory said 'accidental' release, used phrases like "chinese are abysmal at safety protocols", etc. No, you were against solely because it was being presented by 3cat and I, and you cannot conceptualize of the "enemy" ever being right. Now that you've been piled on by board lefties and liberals for being obtusely stupid you're doing this insane backpedal, "Oh, yeah, I'm down with it being a theory and maybe accidental release, I was just against that thing that no one, not even I said I was against, heh, yeah... that's the ticket...". So no, you're still an idiot and you've just proven you have no independent thought of your own. * Everyone except Sadras who pimped the "intentional trade war" nonsense two days ago. Her timing somehow just *happens* to slightly be behind the timing of the MSM backpedal on it being a possible lab escape rather than definitively a zoonotic jump. Shocking... |
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Post by 3catcircus on May 25, 2021 16:30:30 GMT
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Post by evileeyore on May 25, 2021 19:43:13 GMT
Her timing somehow just *happens* to slightly be behind the timing of the MSM backpedal on it being a possible lab escape rather than definitively a zoonotic jump. Shocking... Yup, pretty sure this is what was behind her immediate 180°.   #^$#%!&! I'm not a lefty/liberal. I put 'liberal' in noncaps because as a responsible conservative, you probably fit the original description of liberal rather then the political definition of Liberal. Also I was literally referring to cyphersmith. (and myself being I'm a 'small letter' liberal) |
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Post by kirinke on May 25, 2021 23:48:29 GMT
Nope. Haven't read it. Nice try though. I still believe it has a natural origin. The lab accident theory is plausible, but still unlikely in my book. The intentional release theory is right out and into crazy kooky Bigfoot land right next to the mermaid lagoon. I haven't really changed my mind much, except admit that the lab accident angle is possible after I really considered it, however unlikely.
But, keep on believing those grand conspiracy theories NB and 3cat They give me room to laugh at you both. I mean when your echo chamber includes guys like 3cat who believe that the virus was released by the Chinese in response to stupid fucking trade war (not even a real shooting war). Ya don't got much.
But go on, continue to call me stupid though and having no independent thought or other words that make you feel better about yourselves in the cold, scary night. 
I digress in the extreme though. Raally I do.
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Post by 3catcircus on May 26, 2021 1:38:50 GMT
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Post by Maxperson on May 26, 2021 3:23:28 GMT
The funding is not relevant to whether or not one is more likely than the other. |
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Post by evileeyore on May 26, 2021 4:36:40 GMT
The funding is not relevant to whether or not one is more likely than the other. Yeah, it's only relevant to Fuacci's early assertions that it couldn;t possibly have been a lab escape. My favorite bit the last few days was CNN admitting they only went so hard against the Wuhan Lab Accident theory because Trump initially touted and they couldn't possibly agree with him. |
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