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Post by Devoid on Mar 14, 2022 15:03:00 GMT
And finally, just for teh lulz, a list of the side effects associated with the Pfizer vaccine: APPENDIX 1. LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST (1291 events listed)The "adverse events of special interest" are medical notes/advice and patient remarks noted in both past and present medical history of those in the program. This list does not specifically depict side effects specific to / caused by the vaccine (though some might be). There are complications and adverse reactions with just about anything medically related, particularly vaccines produced on a truncated timeline. Everyone should be wary of potential interactions, and to become complacent is detrimental to our overall health and general well-being. Yet to present this as a list of Pfizer vaccine side effects (when it is not) is not accurate either. Here are some of the more obvious examples included in this list:
- Choking
- Coronavirus test
- Coronavirus test negative
- Coronavirus test positive
- COVID-19
- COVID-19 immunisation
- COVID-19 treatment
- Deja vu (yes, it is included)
- Exposure to communicable disease
- Exposure to SARS-CoV-2
- MERS-CoV test
- MERS-CoV test negative
- MERS-CoV test positive
- Middle East respiratory syndrome
- Occupational exposure to communicable disease
- Occupational exposure to SARS-CoV-2
- Product availability issue
- Product distribution issue
- Product supply issue
- Quarantine
- SARS-CoV-1 test
- SARS-CoV-1 test negative
- SARS-CoV-1 test positive
- SARS-CoV-2 antibody test
- SARS-CoV-2 antibody test negative
- SARS-CoV-2 antibody test positive
- SARS-CoV-2 carrier
- SARS-CoV-2 test
- SARSCoV-2 test false negative
- SARS-CoV-2 test false positive
- SARS-CoV-2 test negative
- SARSCoV-2 test positive
- Suspected COVID19
- Zika virus associated Guillain Barre syndrome
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Post by libtard on Mar 14, 2022 17:21:55 GMT
And finally, just for teh lulz, a list of the side effects associated with the Pfizer vaccine: APPENDIX 1. LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST (1291 events listed)The "adverse events of special interest" are medical notes/advice and patient remarks noted in both past and present medical history of those in the program. This list does not specifically depict side effects specific to / caused by the vaccine (though some might be). There are complications and adverse reactions with just about anything medically related, particularly vaccines produced on a truncated timeline. Everyone should be wary of potential interactions, and to become complacent is detrimental to our overall health and general well-being. Yet to present this as a list of Pfizer vaccine side effects (when it is not) is not accurate either.
Absolutely true, and I stand corrected. I've changed the original post to reflect. |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 15, 2022 11:18:48 GMT
So translation: Big scary list is not so scary when you actually look at it. Nice try Libtard. All that you, 3cat and NB have are scare tactics, lame ones at that, outright lies and misinformation. Get off the conspiracy theory sites. They ain't doing you any good.
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Post by Devoid on Mar 15, 2022 13:34:04 GMT
So translation: Big scary list is not so scary when you actually look at it. Nice try Libtard. All that you, 3cat and NB have are scare tactics, lame ones at that, outright lies and misinformation. Get off the conspiracy theory sites. They ain't doing you any good.
Libtard posted information claiming it was something it was not, acknowledged the statement was inaccurate in a follow-up post after it was mentioned, then edited the remark of the original submission to better reflect the fact.
I don't know whether libtard was intentionally trying to mislead or perhaps just got carried away in the moment when posting in quick succession. Whatever the reason, it was publicly acknowledged and corrected. Some "news" sources don't seem to even do that regularly when this happens. The best we can do is take more time to think/reflect before we post/speak.
How do personal attacks after the fact help in the long run? Regardless of what others may believe, I think you are better than this.  |
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Post by libtard on Mar 15, 2022 18:06:30 GMT
So translation: Big scary list is not so scary when you actually look at it. Nice try Libtard. All that you, 3cat and NB have are scare tactics, lame ones at that, outright lies and misinformation. Get off the conspiracy theory sites. They ain't doing you any good.
Libtard posted information claiming it was something it was not, acknowledged the statement was inaccurate in a follow-up post after it was mentioned, then edited the remark of the original submission to better reflect the fact.
I don't know whether libtard was intentionally trying to mislead or perhaps just got carried away in the moment when posting in quick succession. Whatever the reason, it was publicly acknowledged and corrected. Some "news" sources don't seem to even do that regularly when this happens. The best we can do is take more time to think/reflect before we post/speak.
How do personal attacks after the fact help in the long run? Regardless of what others may believe, I think you are better than this. There is a lot of data to parse, and I misconstrued the Appendix - although it should be noted that some of those conditions are likely directly associated with the vaccine. Perhaps kirinke would like to comment on the 1200+ deaths associated with the vaccine in the first 10 weeks, and the fact that the FDA redacted the information regarding the total number of doses administered in this period? According to Pfizer’s own documents- you know, the ones which were only released after a Freedom of Information suit was pressed? |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 15, 2022 23:41:14 GMT
I know, I'm just tired of the mis-information and conspiracy theories. So yes, I'm sorry for that.
Not quite what you're looking for, but my guess is that claim is much the same.
As far as the FDA redaction and other shennanigans, I dunno. As far as the redactions? Just because you file a Freedom of Information suit, doesn't mean you'll get all the information you request for starters. A link to the article or information in question would be nice. Because right now, you're rejoiners are kinda vagueish?
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Post by libtard on Mar 16, 2022 3:36:56 GMT
I know, I'm just tired of the mis-information and conspiracy theories. So yes, I'm sorry for that.
Not quite what you're looking for, but my guess is that claim is much the same.
As far as the FDA redaction and other shennanigans, I dunno. As far as the redactions? Just because you file a Freedom of Information suit, doesn't mean you'll get all the information you request for starters. A link to the article or information in question would be nice. Because right now, you're rejoiners are kinda vagueish?
Why are you citing a fact-checking report from December when this data only entered the public domain in the past couple of weeks? We can estimate that around 10 million doses were administered during the period in question- but why aren’t we simply given this specific data? A causal relationship has yet to be established between the vaccine and subsequent deaths. Maybe it won’t be. But you seem very happy with the lack of transparency in this whole process. Why? |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 16, 2022 11:22:54 GMT
No, you're claiming that 6,000+ people have died from the vaccine or vaccines without any proofs whatsoever and I admitted the article I submitted wasn't quite what you're looking for. It was the best I could do without any additional information sadly. Claims like you put down require proof or at least articles supporting it. I haven't seen any and even a google search didn't produce anything I could really use one way or another.
My question is where did you get this claim? I don't have enough information to even research it properly. But in general, if you're getting the information solely off of VAERS, it's probably mis-interpreted at best. As far as the FOI request, I don't know the particulars of that claim either to say anything about it really, other than I dunno.
Not the answer you're looking for, but it's the best I can do with the information given.
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Post by cyphersmith on Mar 16, 2022 14:45:46 GMT
I know, I'm just tired of the mis-information and conspiracy theories. So yes, I'm sorry for that.
Not quite what you're looking for, but my guess is that claim is much the same.
As far as the FDA redaction and other shennanigans, I dunno. As far as the redactions? Just because you file a Freedom of Information suit, doesn't mean you'll get all the information you request for starters. A link to the article or information in question would be nice. Because right now, you're rejoiners are kinda vagueish?
Why are you citing a fact-checking report from December when this data only entered the public domain in the past couple of weeks? We can estimate that around 10 million doses were administered during the period in question- but why aren’t we simply given this specific data? A causal relationship has yet to be established between the vaccine and subsequent deaths. Maybe it won’t be. But you seem very happy with the lack of transparency in this whole process. Why? Yeah, that sounds like data that came from VAERS. Which is a worthless source. The problem with a lot of the data that is cited is basically that they're reports of adverse effects without any kind of proper follow up. For the VAERS data, for example, some of the deaths listed are car crashes sometime after being vaccinated. That's far less related than many of the complaints that people have of some of the deaths listed as having COVID as a contributing condition. Things like cause of death being a heart attack, but the person had COVID so it's listed as COVID related. |
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Post by evileeyore on Mar 16, 2022 17:28:29 GMT
The number of doses administered is redacted. Because too many interesting findings could be discovered if the plebs were allowed that information. ... you seem very happy with the lack of transparency in this whole process. Why? Anything that would point out the fallacy of her religion must be false, ignored, or the individual presenting the fallacy must be villified. Anything less would be to allow heresy in her heart. |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 16, 2022 19:14:37 GMT
Anything that would constitute real proof is fine. I have admitted when I'm wrong or backed down before, it's no problem to do so again. Right now, you guys aren't providing me with anything close to proof. So thusly, I am not convinced.
You've just admitted that your " 1200+ deaths" statement is false and the rest of this is pure conspiracy theorist what-if's.
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Post by libtard on Mar 16, 2022 20:01:28 GMT
Anything that would constitute real proof is fine. I have admitted when I'm wrong or backed down before, it's no problem to do so again. Right now, you guys aren't providing me with anything close to proof. So thusly, I am not convinced.
You've just admitted that your " 1200+ deaths" statement is false and the rest of this is pure conspiracy theorist what-if's.
The data is from Pfizer. The deaths are associated. Demonstrating causality is more complex. This number of associated deaths is very high and would be deemed unacceptable for any other vaccine treatment - assuming 10 million doses administered (they won’t tell us exactly, remember?) Your anxiety to dismiss this out of hand and categorize me as a conspiracy theorist is demonstrative of an unwillingness or inability to honestly engage with the data. |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 16, 2022 20:15:48 GMT
Just because they're associated does not mean the vaccine is the cause of them. That's the crux. You have no proof. I can take a vaccine and die from a car crash the next day. The vaccine didn't cause my death, the car crash did. Yes they're associated, but no, the vaccine is not the culprit.
You are using insane troll logic there.
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Post by libtard on Mar 17, 2022 6:44:31 GMT
Just because they're associated does not mean the vaccine is the cause of them. That's the crux. You have no proof. I can take a vaccine and die from a car crash the next day. The vaccine didn't cause my death, the car crash did. Yes they're associated, but no, the vaccine is not the culprit.
You are using insane troll logic there.
? The patients aren't dying in car crashes. They're dying from hypoxia, thrombosis and cardiogenic shock, amongst other things. Perhaps you could explain how mentioning people dying in car crashes - and other obviously unconnected causes - is not "insane troll logic?" Here's the report again, as you've obviously inserted your elbows in your ears and buried your head under 11 tons of volcanic ash: phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 17, 2022 11:05:16 GMT
And in the methodology
So basically, it's data taken from all over the place, with no controls in place, no filtering, no basic research done. The incidents are reported regardless of if they're proven to be linked to the vaccine or not.
This isn't proof dude. At best, it's wildly mis-represented. At worst, it's a scare tactic in an official looking document. Please be more careful when you disseminate this stuff, because it can and does mis-lead.
I'm sorry Libtard, but you're off the mark on this one.
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