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Post by cyphersmith on Sept 30, 2020 23:54:10 GMT
Fact checkers pretty much confirmed the majority of Trump's statements to, in fact, be true. Hmm, from Politifact, it appears that there are more lies or missing context things from Trump than there were actual statements of facts. |
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Post by kirinke on Oct 1, 2020 0:04:30 GMT
About the only way the second debate if you can call it that would work, is if both Trump and Biden are in booths. When one is speaking, the other booth goes black. So they can't be seen or heard (but they can hear just fine).
That's the only way to maintain a sense of control over both. Otherwise, it's just going to be another shitshow.
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Post by evileeyore on Oct 1, 2020 2:07:05 GMT
I couldn't watch it (didn't even try, I've caught excerpts today). My tolerance for elder abuse is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay lower than most people's apparently. It was... Biden showed up to a chess match ready to play checkers and neither he nor the moderator could stop Trump from playing pigeon. Everyone lost at their game but Trump. |
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Post by Eldorian on Oct 1, 2020 13:38:22 GMT
Fact checkers pretty much confirmed the majority of Trump's statements to, in fact, be true. Hmm, from Politifact, it appears that there are more lies or missing context things from Trump than there were actual statements of facts. Dude, he lives in an alternate reality where Trump doesn't lie. It's like a Star Trek episode. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Oct 1, 2020 15:18:06 GMT
Hmm, from Politifact, it appears that there are more lies or missing context things from Trump than there were actual statements of facts. Dude, he lives in an alternate reality where Trump doesn't lie. It's like a Star Trek episode. As opposed to Biden's nonstop stream of consciousness lie from start to finish? |
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Post by kirinke on Oct 1, 2020 16:58:44 GMT
Um 3cat, that was Trump.
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Post by Scarbonac on Oct 1, 2020 19:45:09 GMT
Hmm, from Politifact, it appears that there are more lies or missing context things from Trump than there were actual statements of facts. Dude, he lives in an alternate reality where Trump doesn't lie. It's like a Star Trek episode. Is it the one where Ivanka has a beard? |
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Post by 3catcircus on Oct 1, 2020 20:48:32 GMT
Dude, he lives in an alternate reality where Trump doesn't lie. It's like a Star Trek episode. Is it the one where Ivanka has a beard? If chicks with dicks is your fetish, I'm sure someone in Seattle or Portland would be willing to indulge you. |
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Post by kirinke on Oct 1, 2020 21:08:12 GMT
And that was Trump's debate style in a nutshell.
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Post by 3catcircus on Oct 1, 2020 21:52:24 GMT
And that was Trump's debate style in a nutshell. So your objection to Trump is his style. Got it - window dressing is more important to you than capability and effectiveness. |
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Post by kirinke on Oct 1, 2020 22:23:52 GMT
No. My objection to Trump is his existence. To date, he is one of the most vile examples of human excrement that has ever befouled the Oval office. He is incapable of leading, incapable of governing and is all around a horrible, white supremacist, misogynistic, lying, wind-bag. He makes Hoover and Nixon together look like a smiling cherubic saint.
That's my problem with Trump.
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Post by 3catcircus on Oct 1, 2020 23:25:39 GMT
No. My objection to Trump is his existence. To date, he is one of the most vile examples of human excrement that has ever befouled the Oval office. He is incapable of leading, incapable of governing and is all around a horrible, lying, wind-bag. He makes Hoover and Nixon together look like a smiling cherubic saint.
That's my problem with Trump.
So says you. African Americans released from jail because of him, for example, would beg to differ. Those of you who don't work in DC are captivated by the slick lies of the left and their MSM enablers. Those of us who work in DC recognize the panic that exuded from the entrenched Washington politicians and lobbyists when Trump was elected despite their shenanigans. He doesn't play the Washington politics game and they can't stand him for it. That's it. That's all it is. |
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Post by kirinke on Oct 1, 2020 23:26:34 GMT
The only reason why he did that was blatant pandering. Nobody is fooled by a few contrite actions.
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Post by cyphersmith on Oct 1, 2020 23:36:16 GMT
No. My objection to Trump is his existence. To date, he is one of the most vile examples of human excrement that has ever befouled the Oval office. He is incapable of leading, incapable of governing and is all around a horrible, lying, wind-bag. He makes Hoover and Nixon together look like a smiling cherubic saint.
That's my problem with Trump.
So says you. African Americans released from jail because of him, for example, would beg to differ. That's a red herring. The numbers he has done that for are trivial. You're fucking hilarious. The lobbyists are bad, and continuing to get worse. NEITHER party is doing shit about them. Oh, many of the progressive Democrats want to, but it's not happening because the moderate weenies in the Democrat party are just as owned by the fucking lobbyists as the vast majority of the Republicans are. He does play the Washington politics game, and milks it for all the money he can. Because he's a fucking con man who has conned the Republicans into following his bullshit. |
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Post by kirinke on Oct 2, 2020 0:56:29 GMT
I also notice 3cat the only thing you can even nominally object is the racism part and even then, your example is spurious at best.
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