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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 8, 2021 18:15:32 GMT
Yep - the capitol police turned down offers of the national guard 3 times to avoid the optics of troops being there. I find it interesting that the protest was still mostly peaceful even as they wandered inside the building (phantom shitter aside). I also find it interesting that we have video of protestors helping up a police officer knocked down when they knocked down the barriers outside - such a ACAB violent thing to do. And video of protestors trying to stop people they identified as antifa from smashing into the building. I haven't seen video of the police officer hit by a fire extinguisher, but the unarmed woman shot and killed resulted in the police admitting it was an accidental discharge. A few hours of politicians experiencing a mere fraction of the violence perpetrated on a nightly basis by antifa and they're acting like they were being invaded by hostile foreign troops. Compare that to weeks of antifa ambushing police officers and seeing buildings in fire. Minimal number of antifa killed (I don't think any) and most of them have their charges dropped by prosecutors. We already know that some of those who were most prominently featured are actually leftists - the guy stealing the lectern, the guy who filmed babbitt being shot, etc. How many antifa infiltrators were there vs. trump supporters who got carried away? Despite kirinke's delusions, Trump did not incite a riot and his speech calling for people to go home peacefully was censored by twitter and facebook. So the Florida man who stole the lectern wasn't a Trump supporter? I haven't seen that anywhere. The guy who filmed the shooting was not actually entering the building, he was acting as a reporter. Everyone thinks the guy in the fur hat with horns is antifa, but he's actually pissed that people think that as he's a serious Q-anon believer. Trump said shit to cover his ass, he wanted what happened to happen, and he's backpedaling now that it has failed. He prevented the deployment of the National Guard for hours. He was complicit. The guy filming is John Earle Sullivan, a blm activist who was involved in an antifa riot in Utah. www.deseret.com/utah/2020/7/10/21320220/organizer-of-provo-protest-arrested-accused-of-rioting-making-threatsThe lectern guy is questionable. I've seen different accounts of his affiliation. Either way, walking off with a lectern while grinning is hardly what I'd call terrorism or rioting, let alone an attempted coup - the phantom shitter is more of a terrorist...
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Post by kirinke on Jan 8, 2021 20:51:31 GMT
Bullshit. Trump is the root and cause of the DC tantrum. Only him and his enablers. Nice try. However, you critically fail at your pathetic attempt at deflection.
The "DC tantrum" caused a few hundred dollars in damage and interrupted the Congress for a few hours. Leftist antifa tantrums burned buildings to the ground and attacked innocents. Spare me your pearl-clutching. The only reason the media and politicians are now outraged is because it finally happened to them. Not one of those scumbags lifted a finger to help people attacked by antifa or had their businesses destroyed by antifa. Political violence by the right is a direct result of failure of politicians on the left and right to act to stop political violence by the left. Four people, including police officers died during this tantrum. Fuck you. It's all Trump's fault.
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Post by Kzach on Jan 9, 2021 1:10:16 GMT
The "DC tantrum" caused a few hundred dollars in damage and interrupted the Congress for a few hours. Leftist antifa tantrums burned buildings to the ground and attacked innocents. Spare me your pearl-clutching. The only reason the media and politicians are now outraged is because it finally happened to them. Not one of those scumbags lifted a finger to help people attacked by antifa or had their businesses destroyed by antifa. Political violence by the right is a direct result of failure of politicians on the left and right to act to stop political violence by the left. Four people, including police officers died during this tantrum. Fuck you. It's all Trump's fault. 5 dead. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/07/us/capitol-mob-deaths/index.htmlRepublicans say they are the party of personal responsability and thus should blame Trump and themselves for fostering violent fascists.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 9, 2021 1:15:58 GMT
The "DC tantrum" caused a few hundred dollars in damage and interrupted the Congress for a few hours. Leftist antifa tantrums burned buildings to the ground and attacked innocents. Spare me your pearl-clutching. The only reason the media and politicians are now outraged is because it finally happened to them. Not one of those scumbags lifted a finger to help people attacked by antifa or had their businesses destroyed by antifa. Political violence by the right is a direct result of failure of politicians on the left and right to act to stop political violence by the left. Four people, including police officers died during this tantrum. Fuck you. It's all Trump's fault. Antifa/BLM riots - 30+ dead, including multiple cops. Spare me your false outrage and go die in a fire.
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Post by Eldorian on Jan 9, 2021 1:32:10 GMT
Antifa/BLM riots - 30+ dead, including multiple cops. Spare me your false outrage and go die in a fire. A) Not incited by a sitting elected official. B) Take your threats elsewhere, coward.
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 9, 2021 2:57:06 GMT
Now a cop has died from injuries sustained during the putsch. Oh, and some of the insurgents smeared faeces on the walls of Congress. Only the best people. “We love you.” The faeces smearing? That was just Republicrat congresspeople shitting their pants at the realization that people are done with their bullshit. Wednesday's activities were the result of decades' worth of politicians continually enriching themselves while ass-raping their constituents. So to be clear from these statements, you're okay with interfering with the Constitution and assault on government by rabble?
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 9, 2021 2:58:06 GMT
Nice try 3cat. Your buddies did this. Trump did this. It's his fault. Just like all of the antifa/BLM - this was also a mostly peaceful protest. Yep. Just like Antifa, the terrorists who invaded the capitol building should have been shot.
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Post by kirinke on Jan 9, 2021 13:43:09 GMT
So to be clear from these statements, you're okay with interfering with the Constitution and assault on government by rabble egged on by the highest elected official in the land?
Fixed it for you.
I'm against that. Arresting them and punishing them like common criminals is the way to go in both cases. By treating them as terrorists, you are giving them oxygen. Don't. I think the perfect coda to all this mess is just that. Treating Trump like the common little criminal he is.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 9, 2021 14:36:03 GMT
Antifa/BLM riots - 30+ dead, including multiple cops. Spare me your false outrage and go die in a fire. A) Not incited by a sitting elected official. B) Take your threats elsewhere, coward. Bullshit. Antifa and BLM were encouraged, emboldened, and incited by Biden and Harris - both sitting Senators. Their campaign even funded bail money for them. Also encouraged by Pelosi and the majority of other Dems in congress. All elected officials. Encouraged, tolerated, and accepted by the governors and mayors of multiple cities and states - all elected officials. Wheeler as both the mayor and police commissioner encouraged them by actively directing PPD to not arrest them. Multiple district and state attorneys - all directed by elected or appointed officials also actively encouraged them by declining to prosecute or dropping charges - sending a clear signal that they can continue to engage in violence. Telling your supporters to voice their displeasure with congress is in no way shape or form inciting a riot and doesn't compare at all to the leftist encouragement of antifa violence.
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 9, 2021 14:53:13 GMT
So to be clear from these statements, you're okay with interfering with the Constitution and assault on government by rabble egged on by the highest elected official in the land?
Fixed it for you.
I'm against that. Arresting them and punishing them like common criminals is the way to go in both cases. By treating them as terrorists, you are giving them oxygen. Don't. I think the perfect coda to all this mess is just that. Treating Trump like the common little criminal he is.
You didn't fix it for me at all. While Trump did incite them, I don't make a distinction between interfering with the Constitution and assaulting the government while being egged on or not being egged on. It's just plain wrong. And you won't agree with this, but I genuinely believe that Trump didn't plan on them going as far as they did. He's incapable of seeing past his face and if you look at his words, I think he thought that they would go and show their strength by shouting all day about how wrong the Democrats were. However, anyone with an ounce of brains and enough insight to see past their own nose would have realized that people in that state of mind weren't going to stop there. His ignorance still makes him guilty of inciting that attack. As for shooting them, anyone who invades Congress is an enemy of the United States of America and needs to be treated as if they are going to kill Congress. That means shooting them with extreme prejudice. You don't take chances with our government like that.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 9, 2021 15:08:36 GMT
The faeces smearing? That was just Republicrat congresspeople shitting their pants at the realization that people are done with their bullshit. Wednesday's activities were the result of decades' worth of politicians continually enriching themselves while ass-raping their constituents. So to be clear from these statements, you're okay with interfering with the Constitution and assault on government by rabble? To be clear, I'm ok with the citizenry voicing their displeasure with their government up to and including reaching the point where they are throwing off that government and starting a new one - as planned for by the founders. Let's also be clear - in no way was the government ever in danger of being overthrown last Wednesday by a few hundred people wandering the halls of a building they paid for with their tax dollars. More importantly, let's look at what has happened since. 1. Those walls that aren't supposed to work to keep out illegals? Boy they sure erected them quickly around the capitol... 2. Those FBI investigations that take forever? They sure moved quickly to arrest people with the same level of evidence that they have on Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden's laptop... 3. Those crazy Alex Jones ideas? Yep - banned from Twitter and facebook. Parler threatened to be removed from apple store unless they moderate the way apple wants them to and removed from Google store "for our safety" when social media *is* the modrrn-day public square because of the section 230 protections afforded them and the legislation written to their advantage and subsidies afforded them. 4. Unfortunately, I see the possibility of more Ruby Ridges leading to more Time McVeighs as a result of the Dems refusal to treat antifa violence the same way they are treating Wednesday's antics. 5. Why did capitol police open doors and allow people in to begin with? Was it recognition of being outnumbered, was it seeing that the people were peaceful (outside of the antifa infiltrators who we have video of being stopped from breaking windows at the building entrance), or something else? 6. What is to come of laptop stolen from Pelosi's office. Who took it? Either there is a nothingburger on it or there is a motherlode of incriminating evidence of Dem shenanigans. If not a planned snatch-and-grab, there are probably multiple nation-states looking for whoever took it in addition to federal agents. Fact of the matter is all of those crazy right-wing conspiracies about socialist infiltration of government and media are coming to bear fruit as truthful foresight. Maybe the citizenry in the US *are* so far apart in their views that it is time to divide into two different countries. Maybe it isn't. In either case, the politicians of both major parties who have been entrenched in Congress for decades in collusion as a criminal enterprise to continue lining their pockets at our expense should seriously consider why Wednesday happened. One can only hope that Wednesday was a wake-up call to remind them of who they are supposed to work for, to reinforce the fact that they are only in power by the consent of their constituents, and the recognition that if they really wanted to, that "rabble" could have easily made every one of them leave office the same way Qadaffi and Ceaucescu did. I have no ill will towards congresspeople who we saw pictures of standing in chambers with weapons drawn. The pictures of congresspeople cowering in fear? That fear tells you all you need to know - that they recognize they've been screwing over their citizens and those chickens are coming home to roost. Let's not forget that the same AOC who praised antifa's tactics as designed to be uncomfortable is the same one calling for expulsion of congress members who support the idea of not accepting the election results until the states do proper audits (as opposed to just recoubting questionable ballots and considering that to be an "audit") and/or actually follow their own laws regarding how they are supposed to handle elections. Let's not forget that several Republicans haven't exactly been all that Republican in their voting record. Let's not forget that whenever someone in congress refers to another member as "my esteemed colleague," they're really saying "that prick sitting on the other side of the aisle."
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 9, 2021 15:33:24 GMT
So to be clear from these statements, you're okay with interfering with the Constitution and assault on government by rabble egged on by the highest elected official in the land?
Fixed it for you.
I'm against that. Arresting them and punishing them like common criminals is the way to go in both cases. By treating them as terrorists, you are giving them oxygen. Don't. I think the perfect coda to all this mess is just that. Treating Trump like the common little criminal he is.
As for shooting them, anyone who invades Congress is an enemy of the United States of America and needs to be treated as if they are going to kill Congress. That means shooting them with extreme prejudice. You don't take chances with our government like that. So then you would have supported shooting all of the protestors who invaded the senate office building during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings too. And you'd support shooting Bill Ayers for his 1971 bombing for which he was never charged. Let's be clear - a few hundred people wandering around the building were no threat to their lives. That congresspeople viewed them as a threat says more about congress than of the people. That's some North Korean cult of personality level hubris on their part. They're just pissed that their praetorian guard let them in. Lets look at the facts. A few antifa and qanon types wandered around, occupying offices and stealing things (and being phantom shitters - what I consider to be the most serious offense of the day). Some people wandered around the building (staying inside the velvet ropes, no less). One woman was shot and killed by an accidental discharge (for which the officer was placed on admin leave). One officer was killed by being hit by a fire extinguisher (most likely resulting in subdermal hematoma) and we don't know who actually hit him. A few others were killed due to natural causes (with one poor woman trampled). 14 cops injured. Compare that to all of the cops killed and injured in antifa riots this year. We have video of trump supporters stopping an antifa infiltrator who was smashing windows at the entrance. We have video of trump supporters helping up a capitol police officer who was knocked down when they pushed past barriers on the grounds. Those are not exactly behaviors of someone intending to invade and kill congresspeople. We have hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who were present in DC (some accounts say millions) who *didn't* enter the building. If the people *really* wanted to kill congresspeople, there was nothing that could have been done to stop it. We have a mostly peaceful protest and building occupation - which the Dems claim they encourage. But only when the cause aligns with their beliefs...
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Post by kirinke on Jan 9, 2021 16:01:57 GMT
It's all Trump's fault. Nobody else's. Nice try though. And there were no antifa involved. It was all Trump supporters.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 9, 2021 16:09:10 GMT
It's all Trump's fault. Nobody else's. Nice try though. And there were no antifa involved. It was all Trump supporters. Keep on doing what you do, which is kneeling there, head tilted back, mouth wide open, as leftist media shits down your throat whatever they want you to believe. Shine on, you crazy diamond...
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Post by kirinke on Jan 9, 2021 16:17:18 GMT
Idiot. Even the FBI has said antifa wasn't apart of the riot. It was all on Trump and his supporters. So keep on stuffing the right-wing media shit down your own throat. Oh wait, you already do.
The rest of your crap is just that. Shit lapped up from the anuses of QAnon and other conspiracy theorists and right-wing bobble heads.
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