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Post by Maxperson on Jan 9, 2021 19:07:14 GMT
So to be clear from these statements, you're okay with interfering with the Constitution and assault on government by rabble? To be clear, I'm ok with the citizenry voicing their displeasure with their government up to and including reaching the point where they are throwing off that government and starting a new one - as planned for by the founders. Let's also be clear - in no way was the government ever in danger of being overthrown last Wednesday by a few hundred people wandering the halls of a building they paid for with their tax dollars. More importantly, let's look at what has happened since. 1. Those walls that aren't supposed to work to keep out illegals? Boy they sure erected them quickly around the capitol... 2. Those FBI investigations that take forever? They sure moved quickly to arrest people with the same level of evidence that they have on Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden's laptop... 3. Those crazy Alex Jones ideas? Yep - banned from Twitter and facebook. Parler threatened to be removed from apple store unless they moderate the way apple wants them to and removed from Google store "for our safety" when social media *is* the modrrn-day public square because of the section 230 protections afforded them and the legislation written to their advantage and subsidies afforded them. 4. Unfortunately, I see the possibility of more Ruby Ridges leading to more Time McVeighs as a result of the Dems refusal to treat antifa violence the same way they are treating Wednesday's antics. 5. Why did capitol police open doors and allow people in to begin with? Was it recognition of being outnumbered, was it seeing that the people were peaceful (outside of the antifa infiltrators who we have video of being stopped from breaking windows at the building entrance), or something else? 6. What is to come of laptop stolen from Pelosi's office. Who took it? Either there is a nothingburger on it or there is a motherlode of incriminating evidence of Dem shenanigans. If not a planned snatch-and-grab, there are probably multiple nation-states looking for whoever took it in addition to federal agents. Fact of the matter is all of those crazy right-wing conspiracies about socialist infiltration of government and media are coming to bear fruit as truthful foresight. Maybe the citizenry in the US *are* so far apart in their views that it is time to divide into two different countries. Maybe it isn't. In either case, the politicians of both major parties who have been entrenched in Congress for decades in collusion as a criminal enterprise to continue lining their pockets at our expense should seriously consider why Wednesday happened. One can only hope that Wednesday was a wake-up call to remind them of who they are supposed to work for, to reinforce the fact that they are only in power by the consent of their constituents, and the recognition that if they really wanted to, that "rabble" could have easily made every one of them leave office the same way Qadaffi and Ceaucescu did. I have no ill will towards congresspeople who we saw pictures of standing in chambers with weapons drawn. The pictures of congresspeople cowering in fear? That fear tells you all you need to know - that they recognize they've been screwing over their citizens and those chickens are coming home to roost. Let's not forget that the same AOC who praised antifa's tactics as designed to be uncomfortable is the same one calling for expulsion of congress members who support the idea of not accepting the election results until the states do proper audits (as opposed to just recoubting questionable ballots and considering that to be an "audit") and/or actually follow their own laws regarding how they are supposed to handle elections. Let's not forget that several Republicans haven't exactly been all that Republican in their voting record. Let's not forget that whenever someone in congress refers to another member as "my esteemed colleague," they're really saying "that prick sitting on the other side of the aisle." They weren't a few hundred people wandering around the building. Those are tourists and there's a time for that. They were breaking and entering and defacing/vandalizing government property. They were criminal enemies of the state and they should have been treated that way. Next time a lot more people will die. Those congresspeople cowering in fear was a wake-up call. A wake-up to be more secure. You're fooling yourself if you think they will suddenly start caring about the people and not themselves and rich people. |
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 9, 2021 19:09:34 GMT
As for shooting them, anyone who invades Congress is an enemy of the United States of America and needs to be treated as if they are going to kill Congress. That means shooting them with extreme prejudice. You don't take chances with our government like that. So then you would have supported shooting all of the protestors who invaded the senate office building during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings too. And you'd support shooting Bill Ayers for his 1971 bombing for which he was never charged. Let's be clear - a few hundred people wandering around the building were no threat to their lives. That congresspeople viewed them as a threat says more about congress than of the people. That's some North Korean cult of personality level hubris on their part. They're just pissed that their praetorian guard let them in. Lets look at the facts. A few antifa and qanon types wandered around, occupying offices and stealing things (and being phantom shitters - what I consider to be the most serious offense of the day). Some people wandered around the building (staying inside the velvet ropes, no less). One woman was shot and killed by an accidental discharge (for which the officer was placed on admin leave). One officer was killed by being hit by a fire extinguisher (most likely resulting in subdermal hematoma) and we don't know who actually hit him. A few others were killed due to natural causes (with one poor woman trampled). 14 cops injured. Compare that to all of the cops killed and injured in antifa riots this year. We have video of trump supporters stopping an antifa infiltrator who was smashing windows at the entrance. We have video of trump supporters helping up a capitol police officer who was knocked down when they pushed past barriers on the grounds. Those are not exactly behaviors of someone intending to invade and kill congresspeople. We have hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who were present in DC (some accounts say millions) who *didn't* enter the building. If the people *really* wanted to kill congresspeople, there was nothing that could have been done to stop it. We have a mostly peaceful protest and building occupation - which the Dems claim they encourage. But only when the cause aligns with their beliefs... If they forced their way in in the same manner, yes they should have been shot. And let's be clear and look at the facts. They murdered one officer and hurt dozens more, some seriously as they bashed them over the head with pipes and such. They were a threat to the lives of the congresspeople. |
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 9, 2021 19:11:18 GMT
It's all Trump's fault. Nobody else's. Nice try though. And there were no antifa involved. It was all Trump supporters. That's simply not true. He instigated it, but every last person that took part is responsible for their own actions. They all bear the blame. And you are fooling yourself if you think that no Antifa were there. There's no chance that none showed up to cause trouble. There just weren't anywhere near enough of them to be the ones to break into the capitol building and be the riot. The riot as a whole was by Trump supporters. |
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Post by kirinke on Jan 9, 2021 21:17:43 GMT
That's a right wing meme. There was no antifa, just Trump supporters having a tantrum. And I put the blame solely on Trump's shoulders. If he had not instigated and egged them on, they would not have had the fire to throw that tantrum. Now those fools are reaping what Trump's sowed. Jail time and fines for their actions while he sits pretty and so far free.
This was all Trump supporters.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 9, 2021 22:35:24 GMT
So then you would have supported shooting all of the protestors who invaded the senate office building during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings too. And you'd support shooting Bill Ayers for his 1971 bombing for which he was never charged. Let's be clear - a few hundred people wandering around the building were no threat to their lives. That congresspeople viewed them as a threat says more about congress than of the people. That's some North Korean cult of personality level hubris on their part. They're just pissed that their praetorian guard let them in. Lets look at the facts. A few antifa and qanon types wandered around, occupying offices and stealing things (and being phantom shitters - what I consider to be the most serious offense of the day). Some people wandered around the building (staying inside the velvet ropes, no less). One woman was shot and killed by an accidental discharge (for which the officer was placed on admin leave). One officer was killed by being hit by a fire extinguisher (most likely resulting in subdermal hematoma) and we don't know who actually hit him. A few others were killed due to natural causes (with one poor woman trampled). 14 cops injured. Compare that to all of the cops killed and injured in antifa riots this year. We have video of trump supporters stopping an antifa infiltrator who was smashing windows at the entrance. We have video of trump supporters helping up a capitol police officer who was knocked down when they pushed past barriers on the grounds. Those are not exactly behaviors of someone intending to invade and kill congresspeople. We have hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who were present in DC (some accounts say millions) who *didn't* enter the building. If the people *really* wanted to kill congresspeople, there was nothing that could have been done to stop it. We have a mostly peaceful protest and building occupation - which the Dems claim they encourage. But only when the cause aligns with their beliefs... If they forced their way in in the same manner, yes they should have been shot. And let's be clear and look at the facts. They murdered one officer and hurt dozens more, some seriously as they bashed them over the head with pipes and such. They were a threat to the lives of the congresspeople. Let's be clear about a few things.
1. We have video of a representative letting them walk in the building. The video shows him open the door and walk out right past them before they grabbed the closing door and walked in. I don't think *any* congressperson of either party would have done such a thing if they saw an angry mob. Yet that isn't what the video shows - it shows a person calmly opening a door and walking past people outside. Trespassing? Probably. But hardly what I'd call forcing their way in. The video we have of people trying to force their way in show antifa-types (and let's, again, be clear - wearing all black and smashing windows with a hammer has antifa written all over it) followed by MAGA-types behind them pulling them down and preventing them from continuing to try and smash open a window.
2. While technically murder because the officer died, and a tragedy that it happened at all (especially since it appears the officer was a Trump supporter), being hit in the head and subsequently going back to his office with a headache is what actually happened. Which is the same thing that happened to Liam Neeson's wife - anyone with any common sense knows that if you've suffered a head injury, get your ass to an ER and get a CT scan. I don't hear leftists calling for antifa and BLM to be brought to justice after killing David Dorn, Patrick Underwood, 8-yr old Secoriea Taylor, Jessica Whitaker, or Aaron Danielson. I don't hear them calling for justice for the dozens of acts of violence perpetrated by antifa on police officers all year long.
Actually - I need to expand upon the officer being a Trump supporter. The NY Post reports the following:
“I am no longer going to risk my life in hostile environments around the globe for a government that does not care about the troops. I feel that I had a simple problem the government could have easily solved,” he reportedly wrote.
And in 2003, he reportedly wrote that an “unnecessary war” was taking place, adding that with “other major problems going on in this country, there is no room for blatantly partisan politics.”
He argued that the Bush administration “has its hands grasped firmly on the puppet strings of conservative senators.”
According to the report, Sicknick later wrote: “I believe we should have regime change here in America. It’s time to oust the arrogant oil hacks that occupy the White House.”
I'd say that that pretty squarely aligns with how many other Trump supporters feel about the government, which makes his death even more a tragedy.
3. *Who* attacked other LEOs? Do we have video? Given the well-known leftist infiltration tactics (and that antifa's m.o. *is* violent acts), I reserve judgement until I see proof otherwise.
4. Stealing a lectern, smashing a few windows, scratching your balls while sitting in Pelosi's chair do not rise to the level of "OMG they're lining congresspeople up against a wall!!!" If anything, the phantom shitter(s) should suffer serious consequences - that's a very serious crime.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 9, 2021 23:16:00 GMT
To be clear, I'm ok with the citizenry voicing their displeasure with their government up to and including reaching the point where they are throwing off that government and starting a new one - as planned for by the founders. Let's also be clear - in no way was the government ever in danger of being overthrown last Wednesday by a few hundred people wandering the halls of a building they paid for with their tax dollars. More importantly, let's look at what has happened since. 1. Those walls that aren't supposed to work to keep out illegals? Boy they sure erected them quickly around the capitol... 2. Those FBI investigations that take forever? They sure moved quickly to arrest people with the same level of evidence that they have on Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden's laptop... 3. Those crazy Alex Jones ideas? Yep - banned from Twitter and facebook. Parler threatened to be removed from apple store unless they moderate the way apple wants them to and removed from Google store "for our safety" when social media *is* the modrrn-day public square because of the section 230 protections afforded them and the legislation written to their advantage and subsidies afforded them. 4. Unfortunately, I see the possibility of more Ruby Ridges leading to more Time McVeighs as a result of the Dems refusal to treat antifa violence the same way they are treating Wednesday's antics. 5. Why did capitol police open doors and allow people in to begin with? Was it recognition of being outnumbered, was it seeing that the people were peaceful (outside of the antifa infiltrators who we have video of being stopped from breaking windows at the building entrance), or something else? 6. What is to come of laptop stolen from Pelosi's office. Who took it? Either there is a nothingburger on it or there is a motherlode of incriminating evidence of Dem shenanigans. If not a planned snatch-and-grab, there are probably multiple nation-states looking for whoever took it in addition to federal agents. Fact of the matter is all of those crazy right-wing conspiracies about socialist infiltration of government and media are coming to bear fruit as truthful foresight. Maybe the citizenry in the US *are* so far apart in their views that it is time to divide into two different countries. Maybe it isn't. In either case, the politicians of both major parties who have been entrenched in Congress for decades in collusion as a criminal enterprise to continue lining their pockets at our expense should seriously consider why Wednesday happened. One can only hope that Wednesday was a wake-up call to remind them of who they are supposed to work for, to reinforce the fact that they are only in power by the consent of their constituents, and the recognition that if they really wanted to, that "rabble" could have easily made every one of them leave office the same way Qadaffi and Ceaucescu did. I have no ill will towards congresspeople who we saw pictures of standing in chambers with weapons drawn. The pictures of congresspeople cowering in fear? That fear tells you all you need to know - that they recognize they've been screwing over their citizens and those chickens are coming home to roost. Let's not forget that the same AOC who praised antifa's tactics as designed to be uncomfortable is the same one calling for expulsion of congress members who support the idea of not accepting the election results until the states do proper audits (as opposed to just recoubting questionable ballots and considering that to be an "audit") and/or actually follow their own laws regarding how they are supposed to handle elections. Let's not forget that several Republicans haven't exactly been all that Republican in their voting record. Let's not forget that whenever someone in congress refers to another member as "my esteemed colleague," they're really saying "that prick sitting on the other side of the aisle." They weren't a few hundred people wandering around the building. Those are tourists and there's a time for that. They were breaking and entering and defacing/vandalizing government property. They were criminal enemies of the state and they should have been treated that way. Next time a lot more people will die. Those congresspeople cowering in fear was a wake-up call. A wake-up to be more secure. You're fooling yourself if you think they will suddenly start caring about the people and not themselves and rich people. "Criminal enemies of the state" sounds like pretty much every socialist/communist/fascist dictatorship's standard talking points about opposition viewpoints. And I lump communism and fascism together because they are both sides of the same fucked-up coin.
The same Democrats who were praising antifa/BLM tactics defacing and vandalizing government and private property and injuring and killing people are the same Democrats who were cowering in fear of their constituents. The founders were quite clear that they *wanted* a government that fears its citizens. In any democracy, the government has to fear its citizens else it becomes tyrannical. And nowadays, that fear doesn't need to be of bodily harm - it only has to be fear of actually being exposed engaging in even the appearance of impropriety. I mean - how is it that the FBI can go arrest people within a day of them taking selfies acting the fool, but they had Hunter Biden's laptop for over a year and did nothing - neither charging him nor exonerating him? Or that they had ample proof that Hillary Clinton violated both US export laws and rules on handling of classified information and did nothing?
I've no doubt that they won't stop being self-obsessed assholes. We've just happened to reach the point that people see that the 1st amendment has been exhausted and are ready to go the route of the 2nd amendment.
And let's be clear - Trump supporters, while angry that he lost, aren't expressing their anger because of it. They're expressing their anger that their concerns that the election was not conducted fairly have been pooh-poohed. There is ample claims of evidence of multiple types of irregularities:
1. States failing to follow their own laws on conducting the election to begin with. 2. States failing to follow their own laws on counting of ballots and rejecting invalid ballots - those without signatures, or by dead people, or by people not eligible to vote.
3. Statistical anomalies that could not, would not ever happen - anyone in the casino industry would question those statistics, as have multiple statisticians. 4. Refusal to allow ballot watchers to - you know - actually observe ballot counting either by claiming that they were stopping counting for then night and then surreptitiously resuming or by forcing them to be so far away that they couldn't actually see the ballots being counted close enough to challenge any that were questionable. 5. Known issues with voting software associated with incorrect counting during a failure to scan unless the person running the machine actually restarts the count in a specific way (think of the paper jam situation in a copier if you don't put the paper back in in the right order). 6. Questionable tactics in registering voters - especially the homeless, elderly and infirm. I mean - really - when multiple homeless people are signed up at the same Dem party operative's address - how many of them are coming back to collect their ballots? How many of them are going to drop off their ballot in a box or walk into a voting precinct. 7. Reports of "perfectly" bubbled in ballots. I mean - really - we've probably all done Scantrons and know it is almost impossible for bubbles to be perfect - especially entire stacks.
8. Refusals to actually audit ballots. Re-counting ballots without verifying signatures and allowing challenges of suspect ballots is not an audit. Destruction of ballots and wiping of voting machines just fuels these claims.
I say claims of evidence because in all but one case, evidence wasn't even allowed to be presented due to procedural claims of lack of standing or rulings by judges who should have recused themselves.
*That* is what has enraged Trump supporters - the failure to take their claims seriously and actually investigate and to actually audit. It would have been one thing to prove them wrong - I think most would have accepted that. But to not even try to hear their claims smacks of "we can do whatever we want"-ism. Had Clinton pursued her challenge of the 2016 election, I'm certain that all due process would have been afforded by the courts and evidence would have been heard. The refusal to address their claims and prove them wrong only added fuel to this fire. Refusal to take people seriously has historically resulted in the "they'll have to take me seriously now" actions when people are either fed up or are crazy - and they never end well.
That's all they would have had to do - allow evidence to be presented in court to be proven unsubstantiated and audits performed to prove the voting tallies were accurate. We're where we are because of the arrogance of an entrenched political class.
And that is the last straw for many of them in a long line of political elites having scandalous, illegal, or otherwise completely inappropriate activity swept under the rug - and it goes back decades. Other than those who had high net worth through their own personal merits (e.g. being an entrepreneur, being a successful professional, etc.) before running for office, how do you explain how they've managed to become multimillionaires on a congressional salary? You look at these people and you realize that they all have a network of associates that all work to enrich each other at everyone else's expense - interlocking directorships, sweetheart business deals, favors, etc. *That's* what pisses off both Trump supporters and many on the left. And both sides are being played, with many Trump supporters believing that he is the only thing standing in the way of political elites never being able to be removed from office.
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Post by kirinke on Jan 10, 2021 0:50:27 GMT
And yet, Trump himself is reaping exactly what you're complaining about. How much money has been funneled into his businesses because he is president? Millions.
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Post by Kzach on Jan 10, 2021 1:18:51 GMT
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 1:46:06 GMT
Plausible. Not probable. Given the refusal by the mayor of DC and the Capitol police to allow guardsmen there due to the optics, more likely just incompetence and/or poor decision-making. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 1:53:04 GMT
And yet, Trump himself is reaping exactly what you're complaining about. How much money has been funneled into his businesses because he is president? Millions. I'm shocked, SHOCKED!! that you can't see the difference between someone's active operating businesses continuing to turn a profit while he isn't running them day-to-day while serving as as an elected official and the purposeful seeking out of congresspersons to grease palms and peddle influence at the expense of the citizenry. I note that in times of old, when congress only came together a few times a year for a few weeks, they didn't shut down their businesses. But they weren't professional politicians and Congress want a full time job at the time. Now that they are full-time politicians making a career of being elected to Congress, they are all prone to exploitation - and most of them are too weak-willed, too obsessed with power, to not be influenced unduly. |
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Post by evileeyore on Jan 10, 2021 3:36:44 GMT
So to be clear from these statements, you're okay with interfering with the Constitution and assault on government by rabble? Our government needs to be just a little bit more afriad of the people they are sworn, and failing to, serve. To be clear, I'm ok with the citizenry voicing their displeasure with their government up to and including reaching the point where they are throwing off that government and starting a new one - as planned for by the founders. Let's also be clear - in no way was the government ever in danger of being overthrown last Wednesday by a few hundred people wandering the halls of a building they paid for with their tax dollars. More importantly, let's look at what has happened since. 1. Those walls that aren't supposed to work to keep out illegals? Boy they sure erected them quickly around the capitol... 2. Those FBI investigations that take forever? They sure moved quickly to arrest people with the same level of evidence that they have on Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden's laptop... 3. Those crazy Alex Jones ideas? Yep - banned from Twitter and facebook. Parler threatened to be removed from apple store unless they moderate the way apple wants them to and removed from Google store "for our safety" when social media *is* the modrrn-day public square because of the section 230 protections afforded them and the legislation written to their advantage and subsidies afforded them. 4. Unfortunately, I see the possibility of more Ruby Ridges leading to more Time McVeighs as a result of the Dems refusal to treat antifa violence the same way they are treating Wednesday's antics. 5. Why did capitol police open doors and allow people in to begin with? Was it recognition of being outnumbered, was it seeing that the people were peaceful (outside of the antifa infiltrators who we have video of being stopped from breaking windows at the building entrance), or something else? I agree with all of this pretty much 100%. See? A liberal and a conservative can reach across the aisle and agree, now we just need to teach the Establishment Dems and Repubs how to do this... Unless she foolishly left it logged in, I doubt anything will come of it. Except a lot of sleepless nights and panic attacks on Pelosi's part until it's found. I'll find it infinitely amusing if it's never found. It just disappears into the aether, never to be seen again. They won't. Patriotic Act 2.0 and the Internet Crackdown is coming. Gather your porn and torrent all the stuff now boys, the party is coming to an end. Not a single congressperson had a weapon. Those were all security and police bravely poised to lay down their lives for people who had called to defund them. AOC’s Comms Director Asks Twitter To Ban Users From Citing AOC’s Support For Violent Riots"AOC posted the Twitter thread in question just a month before a mob stormed the Capitol on Wednesday, claiming that “protest demands that make others uncomfortable” are “the point.” “The whole point of protesting is to make ppl uncomfortable. Activists take that discomfort w/ the status quo & advocate for concrete policy changes. Popular support often starts small & grows. To folks who complain protest demands make others uncomfortable… that’s the point,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in December 2020. Despite the communications director’s insistence that the tweet was taken out of context by “right-wing accounts,” AOC has a track record of backing destructive rioting in support of progressive causes as she sees fit. In August, the “Squad” member told a New York radio station that some groups, including marginalized communities, have “no choice but to riot” against injustices. “I believe injustice is a threat to the safety of all people. Because once you have a group that is marginalized and marginalized and marginalized … once someone doesn’t have access to clean water, they have no choice but to riot. And it doesn’t have to be that way. I’m not even talking about Palestinians. I’m talking about communities in poverty in the United States; I’m talking about Latin America; I’m talking about all over the world,” she said." Because once you have a group that is marginalized and marginalized and marginalized... like the rightwing voices pushed further and further out of the Public Square? Man, I wonder why they'd get upset and riot just because their concerns are being erased and censored instead of debated and possibly disproven... |
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Post by evileeyore on Jan 10, 2021 3:46:48 GMT
I mean - how is it that the FBI can go arrest people within a day of them taking selfies acting the fool, but they had Hunter Biden's laptop for over a year and did nothing - neither charging him nor exonerating him? Or that they had ample proof that Hillary Clinton violated both US export laws and rules on handling of classified information and did nothing? Power and resources. The Capitol Hill Stormers have neither so they're easy pickings. No one has to fear for their family's livelihood because Florida Man (Pedestal Guy), the dude who stole Pelosi's mail, and Q Shaman go to jail. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 4:07:27 GMT
So to be clear from these statements, you're okay with interfering with the Constitution and assault on government by rabble? Our government needs to be just a little bit more afriad of the people they are sworn, and failing to, serve. To be clear, I'm ok with the citizenry voicing their displeasure with their government up to and including reaching the point where they are throwing off that government and starting a new one - as planned for by the founders. Let's also be clear - in no way was the government ever in danger of being overthrown last Wednesday by a few hundred people wandering the halls of a building they paid for with their tax dollars. More importantly, let's look at what has happened since. 1. Those walls that aren't supposed to work to keep out illegals? Boy they sure erected them quickly around the capitol... 2. Those FBI investigations that take forever? They sure moved quickly to arrest people with the same level of evidence that they have on Hillary's emails and Hunter Biden's laptop... 3. Those crazy Alex Jones ideas? Yep - banned from Twitter and facebook. Parler threatened to be removed from apple store unless they moderate the way apple wants them to and removed from Google store "for our safety" when social media *is* the modrrn-day public square because of the section 230 protections afforded them and the legislation written to their advantage and subsidies afforded them. 4. Unfortunately, I see the possibility of more Ruby Ridges leading to more Time McVeighs as a result of the Dems refusal to treat antifa violence the same way they are treating Wednesday's antics. 5. Why did capitol police open doors and allow people in to begin with? Was it recognition of being outnumbered, was it seeing that the people were peaceful (outside of the antifa infiltrators who we have video of being stopped from breaking windows at the building entrance), or something else? I agree with all of this pretty much 100%. See? A liberal and a conservative can reach across the aisle and agree, now we just need to teach the Establishment Dems and Repubs how to do this... Unless she foolishly left it logged in, I doubt anything will come of it. Except a lot of sleepless nights and panic attacks on Pelosi's part until it's found. I'll find it infinitely amusing if it's never found. It just disappears into the aether, never to be seen again. They won't. Patriotic Act 2.0 and the Internet Crackdown is coming. Gather your porn and torrent all the stuff now boys, the party is coming to an end. Not a single congressperson had a weapon. Those were all security and police bravely poised to lay down their lives for people who had called to defund them. AOC’s Comms Director Asks Twitter To Ban Users From Citing AOC’s Support For Violent Riots"AOC posted the Twitter thread in question just a month before a mob stormed the Capitol on Wednesday, claiming that “protest demands that make others uncomfortable” are “the point.” “The whole point of protesting is to make ppl uncomfortable. Activists take that discomfort w/ the status quo & advocate for concrete policy changes. Popular support often starts small & grows. To folks who complain protest demands make others uncomfortable… that’s the point,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in December 2020. Despite the communications director’s insistence that the tweet was taken out of context by “right-wing accounts,” AOC has a track record of backing destructive rioting in support of progressive causes as she sees fit. In August, the “Squad” member told a New York radio station that some groups, including marginalized communities, have “no choice but to riot” against injustices. “I believe injustice is a threat to the safety of all people. Because once you have a group that is marginalized and marginalized and marginalized … once someone doesn’t have access to clean water, they have no choice but to riot. And it doesn’t have to be that way. I’m not even talking about Palestinians. I’m talking about communities in poverty in the United States; I’m talking about Latin America; I’m talking about all over the world,” she said." Because once you have a group that is marginalized and marginalized and marginalized... like the rightwing voices pushed further and further out of the Public Square? Man, I wonder why they'd get upset and riot just because their concerns are being erased and censored instead of debated and possibly disproven... Right back at you regarding pretty much 100% agreement. Now we hear that Parler was yanked from Apple's store and Amazon is shutting down Parler's servers. I didn't realize that AWS was a publisher that wasn't protected by Section 230...🤔 Pretty much all the Orwellian claims from Alex Jones and other "crackpots" is coming true. I haven't seen any lawmakers calling for investigating social media because of the riot. I would love to find out how many of the Congress that are demanding impeachment/removal or invoking the 25th had laptops or ipads stolen. More importantly - if someone has access to those devices, when will we see leaks? I could be wrong, but if were a politician with shady shit on my laptop, I'd be praying to whatever demonic overlord I worship that it wasn't taken by someone willing to expose my crimes... If I thought it would find its way into Trump's hands, I'd be doing all I could to remove him or discredit him. Funny - does anyone actually know where the President is? We've pretty much heard nothing of his whereabouts since Wednesday. There are rumors that he could be prepared to invoke the Insurrection Act and expose all of it. There are also rumors that he's hard at work declassifying a bunch of incriminating info on the Dems. Who knows, but I find it strange that the media wouldn't be reporting in his current whereabouts. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 4:10:07 GMT
I mean - how is it that the FBI can go arrest people within a day of them taking selfies acting the fool, but they had Hunter Biden's laptop for over a year and did nothing - neither charging him nor exonerating him? Or that they had ample proof that Hillary Clinton violated both US export laws and rules on handling of classified information and did nothing? Power and resources. The Capitol Hill Stormers have neither so they're easy pickings. No one has to fear for their family's livelihood because Florida Man (Pedestal Guy), the dude who stole Pelosi's mail, and Q Shaman go to jail. It was a rhetorical but I appreciate you spelling it out. |
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Post by Devoid on Jan 10, 2021 5:48:57 GMT
While technically murder because the officer died, and a tragedy that it happened at all (especially since it appears the officer was a Trump supporter), being hit in the head and subsequently going back to his office with a headache is what actually happened. Which is the same thing that happened to Liam Neeson's wife - anyone with any common sense knows that if you've suffered a head injury, get your ass to an ER and get a CT scan. I don't hear leftists calling for antifa and BLM to be brought to justice after killing David Dorn, Patrick Underwood, 8-yr old Secoriea Taylor, Jessica Whitaker, or Aaron Danielson. I don't hear them calling for justice for the dozens of acts of violence perpetrated by antifa on police officers all year long. I might be mistaken, but isn't U.S. Air Force Sergeant Steven Carrillo charged for the murder of David Patrick Underwood [1]. If this the case, I thought he was linked to the Boogaloo movement via text with another individual (Ivan Harrison Hunter) linked to the movement as well [2][3]. There seems to be a not insignificant number of law enforcement deaths / precinct attacks attributed to followers of the movement. 1 www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-16/suspects-charged-killing-santa-cruz-cop-and-oakland-federal-officer2 www.justice.gov/usao-mn/press-release/file/1330776/download3 www.startribune.com/charges-boogaloo-bois-fired-on-mpls-precinct-shouted-justice-for-floyd/572843802/ |
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