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Post by kirinke on Feb 3, 2021 1:45:33 GMT
So it's perfectly fine when the right lies, censors, spreads conspiracy theories, insurrection and hate. When the other side says enough, it's "shocking". Show us one *actual* example of the right doing what you claim. Go ahead, we'll wait. Um... Did the riot and insurrection Trump instigated pass right over your fucking little head? The Republicans have QAnon senators in their midst.
Most of what falls out of Trump's mouth or former twitter feed was a lie. Trump coined fake news and KellyAnn Conway coined "Alternative Facts" What do you think all of those right wing militias are? Hate groups who spread hate. Duh. Jesus 3cat. Google it. Oh wait, everything the right does is peachy keen to you.
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 13, 2021 1:06:34 GMT
Thanks Lefties for bringing back McCarthyism, you absolute fuckheads.
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Post by kirinke on Feb 13, 2021 1:29:31 GMT
Nah, Trump did that when he set his mob onto congress and his own Vice President. He's been pulling shit for four years. People have finally had enough. You honestly didn't think there'd be a hard reaction when he instigated an insurrection in a bid to hold onto power? What world are you living in?
Actions and words have consequences.
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 13, 2021 8:04:36 GMT
He really does live rent free in your head doesn't he? Nothing in my post is abotu Trump. Maybe back away from the Flavor-Aide and realize there is, and always has been, more going on than what your Lefty news aggregate is screaming about.
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Post by kirinke on Feb 13, 2021 8:10:16 GMT
The dude staged an insurrection. A violent mob he instigated tried to kill congress people and his own VP. He did everything in his power to steal the election. From slowing down the mail to pressuring election officials to stuff ballots to whining about the election being 'stolen' from him (60+ lawsuits that went nowhere). His final coda when that didn't work was to incite a mob to attack the very people who were going to hand him a stinging loss. When he failed, he slunk off like the coward he is and is hoping no one looks for him under his club-house rock. Fuck that shit and your sorry ass whines about free speech. Free speech does not include inciting mobs, sedition or insurrection or conspiracy to commit those things.
It's not something anyone should forget.
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Post by 3catcircus on Feb 13, 2021 12:33:33 GMT
The dude staged an insurrection. A violent mob he instigated tried to kill congress people and his own VP. He did everything in his power to steal the election. From slowing down the mail to pressuring election officials to stuff ballots to whining about the election being 'stolen' from him (60+ lawsuits that went nowhere). His final coda when that didn't work was to incite a mob to attack the very people who were going to hand him a stinging loss. When he failed, he slunk off like the coward he is and is hoping no one looks for him under his club-house rock. Fuck that shit and your sorry ass whines about free speech. Free speech does not include inciting mobs, sedition or insurrection or conspiracy to commit those things.
It's not something anyone should forget.
Insurrection and sedition don't mean what you think they mean. By their very definition, Trump is innocent of both of them - if he were being tried in a court of law, the case would be thrown out.
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Post by kirinke on Feb 13, 2021 13:07:33 GMT
You use that phrase so often. Yet you fail to use it correctly. I know exactly what they mean. When you set a violent mob of your supporters onto a body of law that is confirming a vote you lost, so you stay in power, that's insurrection and sedition.
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Post by 3catcircus on Feb 13, 2021 21:00:19 GMT
You use that phrase so often. Yet you fail to use it correctly. I know exactly what they mean. When you set a violent mob of your supporters onto a body of law that is confirming a vote you lost, so you stay in power, that's insurrection and sedition. Bwahahahaha... No, seriou... HAHAHAHAHA... Acquitted.
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 13, 2021 21:05:11 GMT
The dude staged an insurrection. Which has nothing to do with what is being discussed. A wiser person would either ask "What is being discussed" or just shut up and pay attention.
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Post by kirinke on Feb 13, 2021 22:15:30 GMT
Spineless dick weasels. At least 7 republicans decided enough was enough. Fuckers. Trump really can kill people and they won't do shit. I'm just surprised that 7 Republicans voted to convict and they actually listened. It shows how bad it actually was.
And yes, it is part and parcel of what we're talking about NB. This entire shit show started with Trump inciting a mob and the right crying 'free speech'. Fuck that shit.
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 14, 2021 21:44:45 GMT
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Post by 3catcircus on Feb 14, 2021 23:52:10 GMT
This. ^^^ I have to have a lot of cognitive dissonance to be able to go to the parks. One just needs to recognize that Disney studios are 100% leftist populated when it comes to the execs. I so wish Walt were still alive and running things - there'd be zero tolerance for leftist shenanigans.
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 15, 2021 4:43:20 GMT
One just needs to recognize that Disney studios are 100% leftist populated when it comes to the execs. I disagree. I know people who know people, being I live in Orlando and have friends that are Disney "officiandos"*... there are a lot of Lefties in the Disney Studios side of Disney, but it's not 100% and the top execs at Disney itself aren't lefty, just sometimes old and out-of-touch with the day-to-day. They tend to be trusting of underlings (look how long that Kathleen Kennedy remained in play before being sidelined, and she's still "officially' in charge [it's easier† and cheaper to keep her till her contract plays out]). "Trust your underlings" is a very stringly engrained mentality at Disney. No, really in this case it's not that Gina is a 'rightoid', it's that she created waves, and right now Disney is all about not creating waves. The sleepy old execs have been getting cranky that their afternoon naps and dreams of bags stuffed with money are getting disturbed by cries of "YOU'RE RUINING STAR WARS!" and "UYGHUR GENOCIDE CAMPS!" and "DISNEY BOWS TO CHINESE RACISM AND ANTI-LGBT!" So really they just want people to be chill and since they cannot control John Boyega anymore... where Gina was still on payroll and making waves. So it comes down to which side will make more waves; the 'rightoids' and Free Speechers or the non-stop screeching Lefties? See, what Disney is missing is the quiet right and Free Speech activists will just opt out of watching Disney going forward, or will at least not pay to watch Disney. I suspect they'll see a downturn in the franchise profits again, but not as marked as they did with the Sequels. I mean, some people have still not come back to Disney (I've a friend who refuses to watch any Star Wars until Kennedy is gone) and you can't lose viewers that haven't come back. * They are deeply and heavily invested in Disney, not just monetarily, but lovers of the parks, movies, friends with execs, etc, that level of shit. Some used to work for Disney in executive capacities but have since retired, etc. † Kennedy is deeply entrenched in Hollywood. She's like an old mafia capo, she knows people and she knows where bodies are buried. She has enough pull she could make things rough for Disney if she felt like burning all the bridges on her way out. So while she's unofficially sidelined from Star Wars‡, officially she's still charge of Star Wars. ‡ Officially she's turned Disney+ Star Wars over to Favreau and Filoni and is still directly controlling the movies... but how many movies do you see being greenlight for Star Wars? Now I said all that above, and I stand by it... Gina was fired because her speech was making too many waves for Disney execs. Is this a "free speech" thing? Not really, it's more an "anti-cancel culture" thing... but... Free Speech and Cancel Culture are directly at odds. So while I'm annoyed at Disney, it's not because 'they tried to censor her", that's nonsense. I think they shouldn't bow to Cancel Mobs over Gina anymore than they do over Cancel Mobs screaming about how Disney movies are presented in China. If Chinese money means enough they'll ignore the cancel mobs, US money should mean as much (it doesn't though. China has waaaaaaaaaaaaay more eyes to put on a screen, so way more money to give to Disney as long as the movie conforms to it's censorship). I also think every one who partakes in a Cancel Mob should be drug out into the street and beaten to death, but I'll never get my wish.
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Post by kirinke on Feb 15, 2021 14:24:38 GMT
Well, here's the lesson learned from all of this. Don't send a violent mob against Congress and the Vice President and then expect everyone to be happy with you after. Nor should you expect there to be no consequences from it. When one side does that sort of thing, you can't expect most rational people to want to associate with that viewpoint. At all.
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Post by Maxperson on Feb 15, 2021 15:04:07 GMT
Well, here's the lesson learned from all of this. Don't send a violent mob against Congress and the Vice President and then expect everyone to be happy with you after. Nor should you expect there to be no consequences from it. When one side does that sort of thing, you can't expect most rational people to want to associate with that viewpoint. At all.
Is it possible for you to engage in a conversation that doesn't involve Trump? From your last several replies, which all involve Trump and have nothing to do with what you're responding to, it doesn't seem so. Go watch Frozen, because he's gone and you have to Let it gooooo!
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