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Post by Maxperson on Feb 1, 2021 1:05:43 GMT
No, what you want to do is worse than death. Yeah that's some hyperbole man. Nothing is worse than death. So long as you live, there is hope of release and/or healing and moving past whatever you are suffering. There is no moving past death. Now being treated in an illiberal fashion by the Left Big Tech may be bad, but it's not worse than death and there is a solution for it. It may take more illiberality from the oppressed side, but there are means and ways. The 2nd protects the 1st as the saying goes. Now we'll see how things shape up over the next few months, I suspect as people migrate and we redecentralize across divergent platforms, people will care less and less that the Big Tech oligarchy*, Amazon, Google, Apple and the SocMeds of Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube (which is google again) are being hella censorious as it will personally impact them less and less. * You know what I just realized, by staying out of the hosting wars, Microsoft has lost it's standing as "the most evil" big tech company and that is just kinda amazing to me as they are still really shit, they're just not deliberately being assholes anymore. Yes and no. For a lot of people living a life of torture isn't living anyway, and if you're dead you don't suffer. |
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 1, 2021 7:23:10 GMT
Yes and no. For a lot of people living a life of torture isn't living anyway, and if you're dead you don't suffer. I'll never understand or agree with that stance. But, luckily, understanding and agreement isn't required for me to feel they should be allowed to do what they wish to do with their own lives. Everyone should have the right to die when they want to. |
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Post by kirinke on Feb 1, 2021 12:16:45 GMT
What, so not spewing hate and lies and conspiracy theories and planning insurrection is torture for some people?
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Post by Maxperson on Feb 1, 2021 14:35:50 GMT
What, so not spewing hate and lies and conspiracy theories and planning insurrection is torture for some people? Having your speech stifled can be, and is only the first step of tyranny. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Feb 1, 2021 18:04:26 GMT
What, so not spewing hate and lies and conspiracy theories and planning insurrection is torture for some people? There is no. such. thing. as. hate. speech. It only becomes hate when it goes from words to a fist in someone else's mouth. |
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Post by kirinke on Feb 2, 2021 0:35:00 GMT
Huh, so Trump calling everything he doesn't like Fake News and trying to shut out Acosta and the rest was torture. Gotcha.
Tell that to people who had crosses burned in their front yards.
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 2, 2021 1:53:47 GMT
Tell that to people who had crosses burned in their front yards. That's literally not "hate speech" you dumb shit. That's threats and harassment, which are already illegal. Let's break this down for your retard level. "Hate speech" is saying nigger where anyone who is black or might be offended for a black can hear you, burning crosses in a black person's yard is threat, harassment, and vandalism/destruction of property. Calling a politician a nazi is hate speech in Great Britain, just for example. But wasn't hate speech when that same politician called people nazis. This is the problem with "hate speech" is that the government gets to decide what is and isn't hate speech. You should be fucking glad Trump didn't believe in it and that we live the USA, or the bobbies would have been popping around to question your thoughts concerning your hate speech directed towards an elected official. |
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Post by Maxperson on Feb 2, 2021 2:43:09 GMT
Huh, so Trump calling everything he doesn't like Fake News and trying to shut out Acosta and the rest was torture. Gotcha.
Tell that to people who had crosses burned in their front yards.
I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Trump exercising free speech might be considered torture by some, but it 1) has nothing to do with what I said, and 2) is the fault of the person listening. People have the right to speak. You have the right not to listen. If you listen and get tortured, that's your fucking fault. |
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 2, 2021 6:31:04 GMT
I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. She's moronically trying to equate Trump calling the MSM 'fake news' with censorship/being driven from the Public Square, despite neither happening to the news media as a result of Trump correctly identifying the MSM as propaganda engines. |
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Post by Maxperson on Feb 2, 2021 6:41:28 GMT
I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. She's moronically trying to equate Trump calling the MSM 'fake news' with censorship/being driven from the Public Square, despite neither happening to the news media as a result of Trump correctly identifying the MSM as propaganda engines. The main stream media has been a propaganda engine since at least the late 1800's when William Randolph Hearst got involved in the business. |
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Post by kirinke on Feb 2, 2021 12:18:03 GMT
So it's perfectly fine when the right lies, censors, spreads conspiracy theories, insurrection and hate. When the other side says enough, it's "shocking".
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Post by 3catcircus on Feb 2, 2021 13:27:54 GMT
So it's perfectly fine when the right lies, censors, spreads conspiracy theories, insurrection and hate. When the other side says enough, it's "shocking". Show us one *actual* example of the right doing what you claim. Go ahead, we'll wait. |
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Post by Maxperson on Feb 2, 2021 13:50:14 GMT
So it's perfectly fine when the right lies, censors, spreads conspiracy theories, insurrection and hate. When the other side says enough, it's "shocking". Yes, exactly. Except for the "censors" and "insurrection" parts, but the right doesn't do those nearly as often as the left. It's also perfectly fine when the left lies and spreads conspiracy theories and hate. |
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Post by evileeyore on Feb 2, 2021 16:29:36 GMT
It's also perfectly fine when the left lies and spreads conspiracy theories and hate. But you forget, this is kirinke. Even if you prove the Left lied, it was a conspiracy theory, or it did wrong, even if she agrees with you, she excuses it, whatabouts it, handwaves it as "not as bad when the Right did {X, Y, Z}" and moves on not actually emotionally registering anything, safe and snug in her smooth brain religion called The Left Is Always Best, The Right Is Evil. Because remember, Obama and Biden built the cages, started putting kids in them, Biden is still keeping kids in them despite a "day one promise", but Trumps is at fault because he didn't stop it when he was in office. |
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Post by 3catcircus on Feb 2, 2021 18:09:35 GMT
It's also perfectly fine when the left lies and spreads conspiracy theories and hate. But you forget, this is kirinke. Even if you prove the Left lied, it was a conspiracy theory, or it did wrong, even if she agrees with you, she excuses it, whatabouts it, handwaves it as "not as bad when the Right did {X, Y, Z}" and moves on not actually emotionally registering anything, safe and snug in her smooth brain religion called The Left Is Always Best, The Right Is Evil. Because remember, Obama and Biden built the cages, started putting kids in them, Biden is still keeping kids in them despite a "day one promise", but Trumps is at fault because he didn't stop it when he was in office. Trump is at fault because he didn't let communism and crony capitalist globalism continue unchecked like it did under Obama... Because he made decisions based upon facts rather than emotions. That's what the kirinkes hate the most - that people are able to think for themselves and consider the facts and the likely unintended consequences instead of knee-jerk deciding based upon what they feel good about, even though they may be completely wrong. Example: kill Keystone XL because native amerind land; because no shale oil production. Never mind that a pipeline full of oil moves product more quickly and is less polluting than diesel-powered locomotives pulling rail cars that derail and leak all over when transferring to facilities at the end of their journey. Or natural gas in a pipeline is less likely to be an issue than having to convert it to LNG in carriers that are basically timebombs if not properly maintained. Example (and it ties into the above example): Solar energy is clean. Never mind that the process to create solar cells is totally polluting to the environment and uses chinese slaves. But hey - these were all Obama opportunities to throw taxpayer money at the "shovel-ready" Solyndras of the world to waste, not properly install solar cells, and then quickly go under. Because the marketing had sold people on the idea that solar is clean while Obama and Biden lined their pockets. |
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