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Post by libtard on May 19, 2022 5:39:07 GMT
Gender dysphoria is real.
Concerns about minors with insufficient life experience making bad choices are valid.
Equating drag queens with pedos, bitching about who can use which toilet, and whining about who can compete in which gender category for high school sports are annoying distractions which the freakishly regressive components of American society invoke in order to avoid any real solution-finding.
The same freakish fundies who want to insert their nutty religious beliefs into personal reproductive choices.
The West has moved on; America's conservatives languish in an idealized, solipsistic vision of the White 1950s. "States' Rights" is only ever used to justify repressive fundie thinking.
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Post by Maxperson on May 19, 2022 6:37:35 GMT
Gender dysphoria is real. Concerns about minors with insufficient life experience making bad choices are valid. Equating drag queens with pedos, bitching about who can use which toilet, and whining about who can compete in which gender category for high school sports are annoying distractions which the freakishly regressive components of American society invoke in order to avoid any real solution-finding. The same freakish fundies who want to insert their nutty religious beliefs into personal reproductive choices. The West has moved on; America's conservatives languish in an idealized, solipsistic vision of the White 1950s. "States' Rights" is only ever used to justify repressive fundie thinking. You were doing okay until you got to the last sentence. States rights is a foundational part of the Constitution and is used by Democrats, Republicans and independents on a daily basis. Without it the Federal government would be able to force states to do anything it wanted. |
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Post by libtard on May 19, 2022 7:52:02 GMT
Gender dysphoria is real. Concerns about minors with insufficient life experience making bad choices are valid. Equating drag queens with pedos, bitching about who can use which toilet, and whining about who can compete in which gender category for high school sports are annoying distractions which the freakishly regressive components of American society invoke in order to avoid any real solution-finding. The same freakish fundies who want to insert their nutty religious beliefs into personal reproductive choices. The West has moved on; America's conservatives languish in an idealized, solipsistic vision of the White 1950s. "States' Rights" is only ever used to justify repressive fundie thinking. You were doing okay until you got to the last sentence. States rights is a foundational part of the Constitution and is used by Democrats, Republicans and independents on a daily basis. Without it the Federal government would be able to force states to do anything it wanted. It was capitalized and put in inverted commas for a reason. It’s a chant used by fundies and regressives to justify their 19th century mentalities. |
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Post by Maxperson on May 19, 2022 14:13:30 GMT
You were doing okay until you got to the last sentence. States rights is a foundational part of the Constitution and is used by Democrats, Republicans and independents on a daily basis. Without it the Federal government would be able to force states to do anything it wanted. It was capitalized and put in inverted commas for a reason. It’s a chant used by fundies and regressives to justify their 19th century mentalities. Your problem was the "only ever" in your sentence. Yes they use it. But that's not how it's only ever used. |
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Post by evileeyore on May 19, 2022 20:58:07 GMT
Gender dysphoria is real. Concerns about minors with insufficient life experience making bad choices are valid. Truth. Sorry, but yeah, there are a bunch who are pedos and they're getting cover under the LBGTQ++ umbrella and that group needs to weed them out, not welcome them in. So did you miss the Olympics or are you just pretending that never happened out of loyalty to the cause? I'm glad you consider the Democrats regressive fundies, that's actually very forward thinking. |
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Post by cyphersmith on May 19, 2022 22:05:08 GMT
So did you miss the Olympics or are you just pretending that never happened out of loyalty to the cause? Honestly, if you're talking about Caster Semenya, I seriously think that the Olympic committee was way the fuck off the mark with that one. She is intersex, not trans. If she's the most common type of intersex, the levels of testosterone in her body don't actually do much of anything for her. In that case, her body is unable to use the testosterone so their requirement is ridiculous. I don't have a problem with states adding additional rules with respect to the environment or codifying the Federal regulations at the state level. Honestly, though, the environment should be regulated and enforced at the Federal level. Pollution doesn't exactly stay in one place. The internet is another place that should not be regulated at the state level. It inherently crosses borders, making it a Federal matter. I honestly would probably add guns to that. It's a crazy-quilt patchwork right now that just causes problems. |
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Post by 3catcircus on May 20, 2022 0:17:47 GMT
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Post by 3catcircus on May 20, 2022 1:26:33 GMT
So did you miss the Olympics or are you just pretending that never happened out of loyalty to the cause? Honestly, if you're talking about Caster Semenya, I seriously think that the Olympic committee was way the fuck off the mark with that one. She is intersex, not trans. If she's the most common type of intersex, the levels of testosterone in her body don't actually do much of anything for her. In that case, her body is unable to use the testosterone so their requirement is ridiculous. I don't have a problem with states adding additional rules with respect to the environment or codifying the Federal regulations at the state level. Honestly, though, the environment should be regulated and enforced at the Federal level. Pollution doesn't exactly stay in one place. The internet is another place that should not be regulated at the state level. It inherently crosses borders, making it a Federal matter. I honestly would probably add guns to that. It's a crazy-quilt patchwork right now that just causes problems. It's not about people born with both sets of organs (true hermaphrodites). It's about the likes of Lia Thomas and Laurel Hubbard. They were mediocre athletes as men and only achieved success (or notoriety) when they "became womyn" and suddenly they're beating actual women. It's not even that in and of itself (Hubbard failed to medal and Thomas got beat by. FtM Yaley). It's that they're taking away an opportunity from a woman when women's sports are already underfunded and undersupported as-is. As the father of a 13 year old girl whose coaches have already told us she is "exceptional" in her chosen sport, I don't want her losing the potential of being able to play in college because of as male who is mediocre but is allowed to play against women instead of men. |
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Post by libtard on May 20, 2022 14:07:43 GMT
Gender dysphoria is real. Concerns about minors with insufficient life experience making bad choices are valid. Truth. Sorry, but yeah, there are a bunch who are pedos and they're getting cover under the LBGTQ++ umbrella and that group needs to weed them out, not welcome them in. So did you miss the Olympics or are you just pretending that never happened out of loyalty to the cause? Yes, there are some pedos who are drag queens. And some who are gay. And some who are cops. And some who are ministers or priests. And some who are garbage truck drivers. And some who work for the BBC. There are pedos everywhere. What you cannot do is demonstrate any kind of statistical correlation between pedophilia and drag queens. And it doesn't fucking matter, because it's still a fucking distraction. And I didn't mention the Olympics, I mentioned high school sports. And no, I didn't watch any of it - I think all sport is a boring, stupid waste of time and I frankly don't give a shit about any of it. And it doesn't fucking matter, because it's still a fucking distraction. You're just another freakish fundie who has deluded himself into thinking he's an atheist and a communist. |
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Post by libtard on May 20, 2022 14:26:59 GMT
Can you not see the difference between "pointing to the fallacy that drag queens should be equated with pedos" and "denying queer pedos exist," or are you just another fundie freak trying to distract? Now, let me guess. |
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Post by evileeyore on May 20, 2022 15:47:41 GMT
Honestly, if you're talking about Caster Semenya, I seriously think that the Olympic committee was way the fuck off the mark with that one. Sigh, you know I'm not. It's the Lea Thomas and Laurel Hubbards that are upsetting the female sports apple carts. Athletes who were male until adulthood and then only really started to excel in sports when they stopped competing against males and started competing against females. I'm not saying that was their goal, that "becoming transgender" was a choice in order "to sneak through the door" into women's sports, just that males aren't allowed to compete in those sports for a very, very good reason, and gender identitarians refuse to recognize the damage they are doing to the trans moment by pushing this. There already are Federal regulations on all of this. Or do you mean the regs don't go far enough, in which case (aside from environmental regulations) I disagree. But then as an actual liberal, I'm for gun rights and freedom of the internet. There are pedos everywhere. What you cannot do is demonstrate any kind of statistical correlation between pedophilia and drag queens. And no one is even trying to. What I keep pointing out is the pedos are getting cover under the LGBTQ++ umbrella agenda for advancing the pedo agenda of granting children sexual authority. And yes, we've had people marrying their pets*, so don't even 'slippery slope' at me. We warned you what nonsense Gay Marriage would open up and you've refused to push back on that shit for fear it would push back on Gay Marriage. * Okay, granted it wasn't in the US (Muricka! FUCK YEAH!) and Britain is all kinda of lefty fucked up, but it's a weather vane mate, it shows the direction the wind is blowing. So again, you think it's okay for biological males to dominate female sports? Do you hate women that much? Actually, I don't think I'm an atheist. I'm an Unbeliever. And while I wish we could institute Pure Idealistic Pie-in-the-sky Communism, I know that (heavily regulated) Capitalism is the best economic policy for greedy shit-tier humans to operate under. I mean, I'm an idealist, not an idiot. |
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Post by cyphersmith on May 20, 2022 22:40:22 GMT
Honestly, if you're talking about Caster Semenya, I seriously think that the Olympic committee was way the fuck off the mark with that one. Sigh, you know I'm not. It's the Lea Thomas and Laurel Hubbards that are upsetting the female sports apple carts. Athletes who were male until adulthood and then only really started to excel in sports when they stopped competing against males and started competing against females. No, if you read my comment in full, you would see that I DID NOT know you were talking about them. Honestly, Laurel Hubbard didn't even complete a single lift. Lea Thomas wasn't competing in the Olympics. And her ability significantly decreased after her transition. Despite being older and more experienced during a time in her life when most people get better. Nor did she win all the events that she was in. I am for gun rights and freedom of the internet. What Texas is trying to do shouldn't be allowed, for example. I would prefer that regulations actually be enforced, something that stopped happening under Trump. Including environmental regulations AND current gun laws. Of course, enforcing the latter has been hard with bought Reps constantly preventing proper funding, an actual leader, and getting into the 21st century with respect to records (they aren't allowed to put tons of their records into computer databases). |
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Post by cyphersmith on May 20, 2022 22:46:19 GMT
Honestly, if you're talking about Caster Semenya, I seriously think that the Olympic committee was way the fuck off the mark with that one. She is intersex, not trans. If she's the most common type of intersex, the levels of testosterone in her body don't actually do much of anything for her. In that case, her body is unable to use the testosterone so their requirement is ridiculous. I don't have a problem with states adding additional rules with respect to the environment or codifying the Federal regulations at the state level. Honestly, though, the environment should be regulated and enforced at the Federal level. Pollution doesn't exactly stay in one place. The internet is another place that should not be regulated at the state level. It inherently crosses borders, making it a Federal matter. I honestly would probably add guns to that. It's a crazy-quilt patchwork right now that just causes problems. It's not about people born with both sets of organs (true hermaphrodites). It's about the likes of Lia Thomas and Laurel Hubbard. They were mediocre athletes as men and only achieved success (or notoriety) when they "became womyn" and suddenly they're beating actual women. It's not even that in and of itself (Hubbard failed to medal and Thomas got beat by. FtM Yaley). It's that they're taking away an opportunity from a woman when women's sports are already underfunded and undersupported as-is. As the father of a 13 year old girl whose coaches have already told us she is "exceptional" in her chosen sport, I don't want her losing the potential of being able to play in college because of as male who is mediocre but is allowed to play against women instead of men. Assuming she's the normal type of intersex, Caster Semenya ISN'T a true hermaphrodite. She only has testes, but because her body can't actually USE that testosterone, she developed as female. Seriously, the percentage of trans people who are into athletics is small, and the percentage of people who are trans is even smaller. Gimme a fucking break. You're not afraid that she won't be able to play in college, you just don't like trans people because you think they're pedos. |
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Post by libtard on May 21, 2022 5:01:03 GMT
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Post by libtard on May 21, 2022 5:36:25 GMT
Honestly, if you're talking about Caster Semenya, I seriously think that the Olympic committee was way the fuck off the mark with that one. Sigh, you know I'm not. It's the Lea Thomas and Laurel Hubbards that are upsetting the female sports apple carts. Athletes who were male until adulthood and then only really started to excel in sports when they stopped competing against males and started competing against females. I'm not saying that was their goal, that "becoming transgender" was a choice in order "to sneak through the door" into women's sports, just that males aren't allowed to compete in those sports for a very, very good reason, and gender identitarians refuse to recognize the damage they are doing to the trans moment by pushing this. There already are Federal regulations on all of this. Or do you mean the regs don't go far enough, in which case (aside from environmental regulations) I disagree. But then as an actual liberal, I'm for gun rights and freedom of the internet. There are pedos everywhere. What you cannot do is demonstrate any kind of statistical correlation between pedophilia and drag queens. And no one is even trying to. What I keep pointing out is the pedos are getting cover under the LGBTQ++ umbrella agenda for advancing the pedo agenda of granting children sexual authority. And yes, we've had people marrying their pets*, so don't even 'slippery slope' at me. We warned you what nonsense Gay Marriage would open up and you've refused to push back on that shit for fear it would push back on Gay Marriage. * Okay, granted it wasn't in the US (Muricka! FUCK YEAH!) and Britain is all kinda of lefty fucked up, but it's a weather vane mate, it shows the direction the wind is blowing. So again, you think it's okay for biological males to dominate female sports? Do you hate women that much? Actually, I don't think I'm an atheist. I'm an Unbeliever. And while I wish we could institute Pure Idealistic Pie-in-the-sky Communism, I know that (heavily regulated) Capitalism is the best economic policy for greedy shit-tier humans to operate under. I mean, I'm an idealist, not an idiot. Christ, you're such a paranoiac. If there is no statistical correlation between pedos and drag queens, why are you worried about drag queens in particular? You're bonkers. Why aren't you worried about neuroscientists or railroad workers? Pedos will find ways to take jobs near to children, regardless. And why do you care about gay marriage? What's that got to do with anything? Actually, no. But it's a fucking distraction, and fails to advance the dialogue around the social, psychological, physiological and neurological dimensions of transgenderism. And I really don't give a shit about sport - it's just drug for pacifying morons. I hold professional sportspeople in the same contempt as pop stars and Hollywood actors - dysfunctional, overspecialized idiots who serve as icons for the unimaginative. Framing your atheism in theistic terms pretty much demonstrates that you're a closet fundie, with the door half open. |
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