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Post by evileeyore on Dec 5, 2020 4:43:05 GMT
The state investigator told Lead Stories that partisan election observers were never told to leave the counting room on election night, but instead left voluntarily after some staff members went home... And I'm still waiting to hear from the observers whom claimed they were "told the counting was over" as to why they left if what the election official claims is true. None of it upheld the claim of "Russian collision" or "Russians influenced the election for Trump". None of which was about "Russian collusion" or "Russians influencing the election for Trump", which you've been beating the drum over for four years. Like a well programmed robot. Being Impeached, being found Guilt of Charges Laid by the Impeachment, and Being Removed From Office are three separate things. I get that you don't actually understand those differences, but they are vast and why Clinton was also Impeached, but not found guilty, and not removed from office. Despite all the shady/illegal land and financial bullshit the Star [chamber] Report found, none of which had anything to do with banging an intern in the oval office (the impropriety charges and why he was impeached) which the American public didn't give two shits about anyway. |
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Post by kirinke on Dec 5, 2020 7:34:13 GMT
I'll make it easy for you. It never happened the way they thought it did. Also, every single allegation or almost every single allegation has been thrown out in court. Election officials can't help it if the poll watchers Trump provided were poorly trained idiots.
Collusion was actually a Trump talking point.
Um, I did mention he wasn't removed right? I understand all of that and nice to put up Clinton, but we're talking about Trump. Unlike Trump, the Clintons have never been found guilty of anything. Trump and his family has been found guilty of fraud several times over.
Trump wasn't removed (found guilty) because Republicans were in charge and refused to even listen to the evidence presented. They essentially just dismissed the entire thing.
Unlike Clinton, Trump is going to be a single term president who lost like a whiny three year old.
Examples of sworn affidavits being filed as "evidence":
Seriously. everything Trump is alleging is bogus.
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Post by evileeyore on Dec 5, 2020 15:44:08 GMT
I'll make it easy for you. Do not mistake me for you. I dont' have your need for magical thinking and blind obedience. Until that question is answered sufficiently*, I won't feel it's been answered. Of course, I'm also not claiming there was voter fraud or "the election was stolen! Rise up and overthrow the system that fails to be exactly what I think it has to be!" See also various idiotic flavors of "Not My President". * "Because someone said so" is not an answer. If the Observers recant, that'll be one thing. If they have audio evidence, that'll be another. And "Birth Certificate" was an Obama talking point. But you beat the Russian Collusion drum and every time you've been called on it you've shifted the goal post, "But other people went to jail for other things that were discovered while searching for evidence of collusion that never materialized" and "It was a talking point". At some point during the last four years it ceased being a talking point for anyone who wasn't indoctrinated into being a DNC Robot. Yes, but you go on as though being Impeached was the end goal, nothing mattered after that. Once impeached he was forever indelibly stained. Which is why I mentioned Clinton. Impeached, continued doing his job. No one really gave it another moment afterwards because, and get this, nothing came of it. Why? Because the Clintons have Power and Money. Trump only has money, and not even really all that much of it. Once he's out of office, his power as President goes away. Hilary Clinton was stupidly guilty of breaking classified materials handling laws, however because the Clintons have money and power, that was swept under the rug. Just like all their landgrab and money schemes that came to light from the Star Report while Bill was in office The exact same thing that happened with Bill (Impeachment) and Hillary (Benghazi and Emails). But it was okay then right? I mean, I remember you dismissing it then (Benghazi and Emails)... so if it was okay when the Democrats did it, why wasn't it okay when the Republicans did it? (Not "whataboutism", this is me literally rubbing your nose in your shitty political stance) |
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Post by kirinke on Dec 5, 2020 15:58:39 GMT
It's not even that. It's just another case of poor research.
Hillary has been investigated how many times by Republican controlled Houses and Senates over the years? How many times have they found nothing? Jesus, just because you feel she's guilty, doesn't mean she is. it takes proof.
Relying on Rudy Guilani to produce real evidence of any kind is the epitome of magical thinking. Nice try though.
No, "Birth Certificate" was another racist Trump dog whistle. Nice try. The investigation was never about collusion. That was a Trump talking point and a red-herring to confuse things. Nice try.
Trump and his family has been guilty of breaking classified materials all the time. Nobody has charged them with it either. Trump is also a profoundly unlikable person and a profoundly incompetent president. That, above all is what stained him. The entire investigation showed what a clown show his entire campaign and presidency was up to that point.
Note: The Clintons have never been charged with anything, much less convicted. Trump on the other hand has both been charged and convicted of fraud. Several times over in fact.
You do realize the shit show the Republicans pulled while in control of the Senate during all of this right? They refused to hear witnesses or even hold a proper trial.
In the Clinton's case, they were all over them like white on rice. They never found anything of note.
You are trying to compare apples and oranges, but hey, go right ahead. I enjoy ripping apart your strawmen arguments.
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Post by evileeyore on Dec 5, 2020 21:06:02 GMT
Cat on keyboard error.
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Post by evileeyore on Dec 5, 2020 21:10:55 GMT
Well no, it's me pointing out that for four years you've gone on and on about "Trump's Russian Collusion" which had as much effect on Trump as Lewinsky, Benghazi, and Clinton's illegal destruction of emails ended up costing them. |
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Post by kirinke on Dec 6, 2020 1:11:18 GMT
You've done that. I've gone on about conspiracy, obstruction of justice, lying, taking things of value from foreign governments, bribery and blackmail etc.
But go ahead, continue. You're funny when you start to stamp about and skreetch in angrish.
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Post by Maxperson on Dec 6, 2020 4:26:52 GMT
Trump wasn't removed (found guilty) because Republicans were in charge and refused to even listen to the evidence presented. They essentially just dismissed the entire thing.
As they should have. Not one shred of solid evidence was provided. By any witness or anyone not called as a witness. There were three pieces of weak to moderate circumstantial evidence, but that isn't enough to convict Mikey of liking Life cereal. The rest was speculation and feels. |
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Post by kirinke on Dec 6, 2020 10:12:42 GMT
There wasn't a hearing, so we'll never know, now will will we? All because the boot-licking dick-weasels wouldn't do their fucking jobs in the Senate.
Now we have this deranged clown trying to undermine the vote and overturn our democratic process.
Fuck that shit.
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Post by 3catcircus on Dec 6, 2020 13:27:03 GMT
There wasn't a hearing, so we'll never know, now will will we? All because the boot-licking dick-weasels wouldn't do their fucking jobs in the Senate.
Now we have this deranged clown trying to undermine the vote and overturn our democratic process.
Fuck that shit.
Trying to undermine the vote? Explain to me why in PA, they received mail in ballots before they were actually mailed out to begin with (amongst other shenanigans) conservativeus.com/photos-pennsylvania-data-shows-that-109k-of-the-mail-in-ballots-were-returned-before-they-were-mailed/Explain why poll watchers were denied access in PA, WI, MI, and GA. www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/291204www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/03/the-steal-is-on-in-pennsylvania-poll-watchers-denied-access-illegal-campaigning-at-polling-locations/www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/shock-video-detroit-election-workers-trained-kick-poll-watchers-count-challenged-ballots-throw-provisional-ballots/If Biden supposedly won fair and square, then every state should have welcomed audits with open arms. The fact is elections have been crooked for decades, but we only now have had a President who isn't part of the system. Previously, whether a Dem or Republican won, no matter, they'd all be eating from the same trough... Which explains why these bastions of public service somehow become exceedingly rich while spending decades in office or why we have crooked organizations like the Clinton Foundation and why there has to be a presidential library every time one of these assholes leaves office. |
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Post by kirinke on Dec 6, 2020 13:47:46 GMT
3cat, Trump lost. Give it up. He lost, lost and is loosing his mind over the fact that he lost. Poll watchers were not denied access anywhere. That's bullshit.
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Post by Maxperson on Dec 6, 2020 16:28:50 GMT
There wasn't a hearing, so we'll never know, now will will we? All because the boot-licking dick-weasels wouldn't do their fucking jobs in the Senate.
Now we have this deranged clown trying to undermine the vote and overturn our democratic process.
Fuck that shit.
We will and do know. The House spent days on "witnesses" and "evidence." They had ample opportunity to, you know, provide some. Instead they sent an impeachment with NO HARD EVIDENCE and weak circumstantial evidence to the Senate for a trial. You know what happens when the state accuses someone of a crime and sends the case to a judge with no or little evidence? It gets tossed out without a trial. The Senate acted appropriately. |
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Post by kirinke on Dec 6, 2020 18:15:59 GMT
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Post by evileeyore on Dec 6, 2020 19:13:06 GMT
Nothing in the wiki article contradicts what Max wrote. |
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Post by kirinke on Dec 6, 2020 19:48:29 GMT
You still believe Trump's bullcrap, so there you go. The whole "collusion" shit was just that, Trump bullcrap. The real reason was obstruction of justice, blackmail and abuse of power.
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