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Post by evileeyore on Jul 4, 2019 0:00:22 GMT
So... how much weight does O'Sullivan's Law have. I mean it sounds as though it is plausibly describing reality...
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Post by kirinke on Jul 7, 2019 21:18:47 GMT
When the moon is full the crazies come out. It's not really so. They're already there. People just notice them after the fact and associate the full moon with the fact they've noticed crazy idjuts running around during that time.
I really should research the subject more before plowing ahead. Sooo. That's what I'm going to do.
O'Sullivan's first law: All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.
Now, this is just me thinking out loud.
Right wing thinking is essentially an out-growth of fear. Fear of the unknown, fear of change, fear of loosing power, fear of being cast aside, of becoming a minority.
It takes alot of energy to be that afraid. If you don't have anyone reinforcing that, then of course you're going to slide away from it and thusly become more and more left wing over time.
Also, many right wing organizations have some real evangelical roots or members who are devout followers of X religion. Left wing organizations typically aren't evangelical oriented or have members with strong evangelical roots. So if the organization doesn't have that, it'll probably drift left as well.
There is also the fact that because you look for something, you find it more often than not in a kind of internalized bias.
More or less, I think a lack of fear against X and a lack of religion will make an organization more likely to lean left over time.
If they have both religion and a fear against X? They'll be howling right wingers before you know it.
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Post by kirinke on Jul 9, 2019 1:33:32 GMT
Here's one for you:
It seems to me that Newton's laws can also apply to speech and human interaction as a whole. What do you think?
Law I: Every body persists in its state of being at rest or of moving uniformly straight forward, except insofar as it is compelled to change its state by force impressed.
Law II: The alteration of motion is ever proportional to the motive force impress'd; and is made in the direction of the right line in which that force is impress'd.
Law III: To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts.
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Post by evileeyore on Jul 9, 2019 21:11:07 GMT
I really should research the subject more before plowing ahead. Yes, you should. That drivel was the exact opposite of research. It was plowing ahead without thought or study. What happened to "I really should research the subject more before..."?
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Post by kirinke on Jul 9, 2019 22:52:13 GMT
So you think I'm wrong. Fine. Prove to me that I am wrong. Name calling does not prove me wrong.
1) If it is religious and fearful of the 'other' then yes, it is more often than not going to be right wing.
2) If it's not religious or fearful of the 'other' then it's going to either be left wing or drift to left wing over time. Mainly because it lacks the reinforcement that religion and fear can bring.
So, to sum it up, I think O'Sullivan's Law is probably right, at least on the surface of things.
I do admit, that post was a ramble.
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Post by evileeyore on Jul 10, 2019 0:17:52 GMT
Name calling does not prove me wrong. I didn't call you any names. O'Sullivan's Law states that institutions become more liberal because conservatives are not afraid to hire liberals nor intolerant of them, whereas liberal institutions remain that way because liberals refuse to hire those not in lock-step with them ideologically. You couldn't have gotten it more backwards if you tried. You literally outdid yourself here.
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Post by kirinke on Jul 10, 2019 0:28:37 GMT
So you're saying that liberals are better at infiltration and seduction than conservatives are?
Sneaky bastards.
Still, I don't think you're wrong on one level. But that's not all there is to it. Human interaction is a bit more complicated than that.
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palaralae
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Still a figment of your imagination...
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Post by palaralae on Jul 12, 2019 1:09:20 GMT
Jesus fuck. And some people wonder why there's such a mistrust of cops in some places. Ex-deputy in Florida accused of planting drugs on multiple traffic-stopsI also saw a YT video the other day of some really sketchy shit where a smartphone was recording and the cop didn't know it, and you can hear him conferring with another officer to slap some bullshit charges on the guy, just because the guy reasonably and respectfully questions the cop. :/
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Post by Devoid on Jul 12, 2019 2:32:20 GMT
So... how much weight does O'Sullivan's Law have. I mean it sounds as though it is plausibly describing reality...
His examples--underlined after his First Law--define what is not right-wing. O'Sullivan then seems to reference Robert Conquest's Second Law (of which I am unable to locate this original source).
Personally I find infiltration theories somewhat credible; however, I don't believe it is restricted to right-wing organizations. Capitalist governments/societies have infiltrated/influenced other governments, just as communism had in the late 19th century and beyond. The U.S. has historically planted the seeds of dissension in many countries over the last century. Russia likely has been using social media to influence the U.S.
Thoughts?
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Post by evileeyore on Jul 22, 2019 17:04:26 GMT
The energy is stronk in this one...
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Post by evileeyore on Jul 29, 2019 17:09:59 GMT
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Post by evileeyore on Jul 29, 2019 17:13:13 GMT
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Post by kirinke on Jul 30, 2019 0:27:10 GMT
The problem is, if you're head isn't in a hole in the ground you should know not to resist arrest. Better a jury than a grave.
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Post by evileeyore on Aug 1, 2019 11:12:31 GMT
My boy! YANG GANG REPRESENT!
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Post by evileeyore on Aug 4, 2019 18:53:37 GMT
I figure there will never again be a time when the bodies are actually cold, so let the shitposting using the dead as our weapon begin...
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