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Post by kirinke on Aug 5, 2019 23:57:11 GMT
You're the one doing it here. So what does that make you?
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Post by Kzach on Aug 15, 2019 13:06:44 GMT
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Post by evileeyore on Aug 15, 2019 21:46:33 GMT
US head of immigration says poem on statue of Liberty only for Europeans. #whitesupremacistthingstosay No, you illiterate retard, he says it referred to Europeans when written. Which it did. Europeans in a specific state, those of the underclass who, despite being wretched, were still of the working class, rather than the indigent class.
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Post by evileeyore on Aug 18, 2019 0:07:53 GMT
My favorite Hong Kong Resistant "Don't Tread On Me" flag: 
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Post by kirinke on Sept 1, 2019 19:12:18 GMT
I have noticed in most of the mass shootings, not all mind you, that the perpetrator usually is a white male guy in his twenties or thirties. I'm not blaming left or right wing crazy, just the fact that it seems like most of the shooters are in that age range.
Why?
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Post by Kzach on Sept 1, 2019 22:52:05 GMT
I have noticed in most of the mass shootings, not all mind you, that the perpetrator usually is a white male guy in his twenties or thirties. I'm not blaming left or right wing crazy, just the fact that it seems like most of the shooters are in that age range. Why? Accessibality to guns legally. It is not impossible before that toget your hands on firearms, and not all shooters used legally bought firearms, but it is a hypothesis that is better than "video games".
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 1, 2019 23:23:42 GMT
I have noticed in most of the mass shootings, not all mind you, that the perpetrator usually is a white male guy in his twenties or thirties. I'm not blaming left or right wing crazy, just the fact that it seems like most of the shooters are in that age range. Why? What does skin color have to do with age range? You might note, most shooting deaths are still done by black males (on other black males) but no one in the MSM cares enough to report on it... I mean, who cares about another several hundred dead POCs? And the reason for the age is that that's when the frustrations of youth still burn hot enough to kill, they are old enough to have witnessed frustrated with the system after frustration with the system and have disposable income with which to afford a firearm, but not yet old enough to relaxed that tightly clenched anus about "how things should be".
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Post by Kzach on Sept 2, 2019 0:42:55 GMT
I have noticed in most of the mass shootings, not all mind you, that the perpetrator usually is a white male guy in his twenties or thirties. I'm not blaming left or right wing crazy, just the fact that it seems like most of the shooters are in that age range. Why? What does skin color have to do with age range? You might note, most shooting deaths are still done by black males (on other black males) but no one in the MSM cares enough to report on it... I mean, who cares about another several hundred dead POCs? Said the Nazi.
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 2, 2019 4:31:00 GMT
Naturally Tibet stands with Hong Kong.  
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Post by kirinke on Sept 2, 2019 16:57:58 GMT
I am talking about mass shootings. You are using a very common right wing deflect, so stop it and keep on the subject. Mass shootings. Nice try though, but you totally failed the deception check there.
So they're more or less pissed they can't have what they want and they can't handle being told 'no'.
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Post by Enkhidu on Sept 2, 2019 18:26:55 GMT
I have noticed in most of the mass shootings, not all mind you, that the perpetrator usually is a white male guy in his twenties or thirties. I'm not blaming left or right wing crazy, just the fact that it seems like most of the shooters are in that age range. Why? Accessibality to guns legally. It is not impossible before that toget your hands on firearms, and not all shooters used legally bought firearms, but it is a hypothesis that is better than "video games". That's a reason why the violence is expressed through gunfire, rather than knives, cars, or bombs. But that's not a reason for the violence being perpetrated by young white males. When you dive in, those who commit violence at scale are usually "newly dispossessed," or at least they consider themselves as such. In the US, that's mostly something that can only describe young white males since young black males usually belong to a different group (generationaly dispossessed) that I believe is more likely to express violence on a smaller scale, with that violence being a means to an end rather than the end itself.
As for why it's males perpetrating the violence, I think that's a product of natural selection that's played itself over that last 50 thousand years or so. Males have been pressured (due to biological and social factors) to be more ready to commit violence in order to successfully procreate - both to survive until old enough to do so and in order to be selected by prospective mates (because young girls selecting "bad boys" is something that has been around a loooooooooooong time).
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 2, 2019 18:53:22 GMT
I am talking about mass shootings. You are using a very common right wing deflect, so stop it and keep on the subject. Mass shootings. Oh. So you don't want to talk about things that cause far more deaths per day than mass shootings? Okay. Something that would actually improve the lives of far more people than the handful of mass shooting victims and their families? Sure, I can play along... You do realize that 'white male mass shooter" is a deflection by the MSM from the day-to-day killings* black urban neighborhoods face? (Sorry, I couldn't play along.)* That far exceed the numbers of mass shootings per year. Just like everyone else. The difference being as noted above, the fires burn hotter, the bile tastes more bitter, and the injustices are fresher and feel new to the young. And what exactly am I deflecting from or too? Try to stop and think about it for a minute instead of regurgitating your CNN spoon-fed pap.* And if you do manage to get the gerbil back up on the wheel and get your thoughts rolling again... compare these two graphics and ask yourself "Why do my Media Corporate Masters want me worried about one of them and want me to ignore the other?"   Presuming that the Gun Violence Archive is even remotely accurate, there have been 9,981 gun related deaths this year. 284 of them are from mass shootings, that's just over 2.8%. Seriously though, unintentional shootings exceed mass shootings by almost four times. Where's the media outrage? For that matter, texting while driving results in more deaths per year than mass shootings. Huh. (you can call this a 'deflection', but it's more of a 'whataboutism' to be honest)* This is why I consider you to be only marginally more competent than kzach. Someone disagrees with you, or paints a picture casting what you are panty-twisted about in a lesser light (in this case "mass shootings versus daily urban violence in a reference of 'why are the media drawing your attention to this now' fashion") and you immediately presume the person is coming from an opposite, and far opposite end of the political spectrum and screech "right wing". Also when they refuse to rise to your "blame the white men" nonsense. Seriously grrl, stop drinking the Intersectional Flavor Aid, that shit is lethally toxic to your remaining brain cells.
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Post by kirinke on Sept 2, 2019 20:50:04 GMT
I am not talking about that. I am talking about mass shootings. You are trying to deflect from that and yes, it is a very common deflect so you don't have to dwell on the fact that white guys are going bonkers and shooting up the place. And yes, I'm also not talking about ideology, because the reasons are all over the place. Crazy is like that.
So can we stick to the subject instead of trying to veer it off into something much easier for you to deal with? I know it's hard and I know you're angry that I saw through the deflection. I'm just not failing for your silliness.
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 2, 2019 21:37:46 GMT
That's a reason why the violence is expressed through gunfire, rather than knives, cars, or bombs. But that's not a reason for the violence being perpetrated by young white males. When you dive in, those who commit violence at scale are usually "newly dispossessed," or at least they consider themselves as such. In the US, that's mostly something that can only describe young white males since young black males usually belong to a different group ( generationaly dispossessed) that I believe is more likely to express violence on a smaller scale, with that violence being a means to an end rather than the end itself. Wow, that's racist. Both groups can be generationally dispossessed. Indeed, there are more whites born into poverty than there are even blacks in the US. Now, I'm not going to argue that black communities don't face generational oppression (from within and without), that we can take as a priori, however... You're ignoring that these dispossessed black communities turn to violence at a much higher rate than dispossessed white communities (I suspect it comes down to generational oppression, again from within as well as without*). More blacks are killed by other blacks in gang related violence than there are mass shootings. * And I think that's the rub. Black families that manage to shake off poverty and go on to do well do not allow the community's† historic resistance to assistance (black men refusing mental help, generational entitlement mentality, generational criminality, 'us vs them' mentality, etc) hold them back. So often the story goes, "My Mom would have beaten me to death if I was in gang; we tightened our belts and saved to start a business/get a house/etc; Dad and Mom worked 6 jobs to see me get into college; etc". † Note, I'm not ignoring traditional white poor rural community resistance to assistance either, it just expresses itself in a slightly different flavor. Also, this completely ignores the fact that poor white rural urban communities tend to be identical to poor black urban communities. In fact, I'd say it's an urban/rural thing more than a racial division in mindsets. I disagree that it's about "procreation", I substitute "ensure survival of more important others" (as in "protect women, children, and the elderly"), after all, voluntarily joining the military/police/fire-rescue often has little to nothing to do with "attracting a mate" and 'everything' to do with "because it needs to be done and I'm capable"*. * And yes, men do often see women as being 'less capable' in this regard. It's not sexism, it's biology. Hell, women often see themselves as being less capable, again, biology. Now, I can't speak for the Millenials and Gen Z, but my generation (Gen X) had the "If you can, do"† mentality beaten into us males, at least the ones I grew up and hang around with now. And it has always seemed to me to be a thing across our society, not just me and mine. † IE, "If you can do something, and another person can't, you go do it for them". As in: Lift heavy things, change the car tire, take a bullet, carry the wounded, put yourself into danger, etc.
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 2, 2019 22:22:48 GMT
I am not talking about that. I am talking about mass shootings. No one's stopping you. I think that's a foolish hill to go die on when there are far worse problems being deliberately ignored. So, what are you calling "recent", what's the date range you wish to discuss? Just this year? Last year?I'm trying to point out that you're seeing this as a "sudden problem surmounting all others" and that it's a "white male" problem because the MSM is telling you that it is. Not that it really, actually is. LOL. Do you want to include previous years? I doubt that you do... the discussion won't go well for you (hell, this year won't go well for you if you want to lay the mass shootings all on the feet of the whites). "The subject"? The subject of this thread is "Random Political Thoughts", I know, I set it. You want a different subject, a different set of rules to engage by? Start a different thread, set your rules of engagement.
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