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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 18:00:06 GMT
True - Biden and Harris spurred this on as sitting Senators and presidential candidates. Tells you all you need to know about people who voted for someone who encourages violence on law enforcement and other citizens. Trump didn't spur on the crowd in DC - I've seen his speech. "Peacefully and patriotically" can only be misconstrued by those being disengenuous. He told them to go down their and show their strength and take back the country. A lot of them were angry and believed Trump's lies about the election being stolen and massive amounts of voter fraud. Only a moron(and apparently you are one) would believe that telling a crowd in that mental state to go to the capitol building, show strength and take back the country would result in anything other than what happened. I heard the speech and I think Trump really believed that they would just chant and yell, but reckless and negligent speech still makes Trump the initiator of the attack against America. Hyperbolic speech isn't negligent speech - by that token Biden and Harris should have been prosecuted for their speeches during the antifa/BLM riots.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 18:05:19 GMT
Considering how erratic his behavior is, being concerned about him being able to launch nuclear strikes is prudent. I'm pretty concerned about that as well. You seriously think a president who has spent his time in office bringing troops home, successfully getting the north Koreans to just show up to a negotiating table, and working towards multiple successful peace deals in the middle east is just gonna launch nuclear weapons just because? I'm more concerned that Pence, McConnell and Pelosi actually did engage in insurrection with the JCS. Its very clear - he's not incapacitated and is fully capable of discharging his duties as president. You don't get to countermand him as VP or Speaker because you disagree with his politics and policies. More importantly, *any* military officer who would agree to go along with them is absolutely guilty of treason - there's a reason why the CinC is a civilian.
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Post by kirinke on Jan 10, 2021 18:08:59 GMT
Actually yes. The man is a menace and if you think he wouldn't do it to get the attention off him, you're delusional. He is mentally incapacitated. Nobody who isn't would incite a mob to attack the Capital, or try to force elected officials to commit fraud to get him a second term. Fuck that shit 3cat. You're willfully blind.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 18:11:24 GMT
Actually yes. The man is a menace and if you think he wouldn't do it to get the attention off him, you're delusional. He is mentally incapacitated. Nobody who isn't would incite a mob to attack the Capital, or try to force elected officials to commit fraud to get him a second term. Fuck that shit 3cat. You're willfully blind. That's where you're completely wrong. Lots of politicians who are rational have amped up their supporters, resulting in some of them getting carried away - like Biden and Harris did this summer with antifa and BLM.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 18:15:14 GMT
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Post by kirinke on Jan 10, 2021 18:42:37 GMT
You're worried about that? Puleeze.
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Post by kirinke on Jan 10, 2021 18:43:12 GMT
They don't have access to the military or the nukes. Nice try though. Trump is deranged.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 10, 2021 18:50:28 GMT
They don't have access to the military or the nukes. Nice try though. Trump is deranged. "But the nukes.". Nice strawman. A guy who has shown he is opposed to needless war isn't going to just start lobbing nukes on people.
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 10, 2021 18:55:03 GMT
Considering how erratic his behavior is, being concerned about him being able to launch nuclear strikes is prudent. I'm pretty concerned about that as well. I'm not. All his worst stuff has been ignorance due to his inability to see past himself or just plain greed, not deliberate evil. He's not about to launch a nuclear missile.
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 10, 2021 18:56:33 GMT
He told them to go down their and show their strength and take back the country. A lot of them were angry and believed Trump's lies about the election being stolen and massive amounts of voter fraud. Only a moron(and apparently you are one) would believe that telling a crowd in that mental state to go to the capitol building, show strength and take back the country would result in anything other than what happened. I heard the speech and I think Trump really believed that they would just chant and yell, but reckless and negligent speech still makes Trump the initiator of the attack against America. Hyperbolic speech isn't negligent speech - by that token Biden and Harris should have been prosecuted for their speeches during the antifa/BLM riots. Yes..........it is. It is when you have people so angry that a riot is guaranteed when you use it. You're responsible for your words, even if they have an effect you didn't intend.
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Post by kirinke on Jan 10, 2021 19:13:34 GMT
Yeah and if the moron thinks he can get out of this trouble by launching a nuke, you think he won't take it? He's that stupid.
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Post by Maxperson on Jan 10, 2021 19:31:02 GMT
Yeah and if the moron thinks he can get out of this trouble by launching a nuke, you think he won't take it? Yes. That's exactly what I said. He won't take it. He's about himself, which means staying alive, living in luxury(not a bunker) and having golf courses he can go outside and play on.
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Post by kirinke on Jan 10, 2021 20:15:16 GMT
I'm not putting anything past him at this point. To do anything less is to invite disaster. He needs to be removed from office and prevented from ever getting even near a political position. Him and every single one of his cronies and family. Because if they get into office, they will be influenced by him.
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Post by kirinke on Jan 11, 2021 12:54:47 GMT
Pro-Trumpers love cops eh? Fuck that shit:
The Pro-Trumpers were prepared to burn the place down and kill even more people.
Proud of that 3cat? You support police killers and attempted mass murderers.
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Post by 3catcircus on Jan 11, 2021 13:18:54 GMT
Pro-Trumpers love cops eh? Fuck that shit:
The Pro-Trumpers were prepared to burn the place down and kill even more people.
Proud of that 3cat? You support police killers and attempted mass murderers.
Those videos show no such thing. The WaPo video shows Trump supporters dragging an *antifa* thug and beating him. It also shows them helping a cop at the front entrance and protecting him, while themselves being beaten by other cops. As to your assertion that Trump caused this? That "bastion of right wingery" 🙄 called the WSJ disagrees... www.wsj.com/articles/no-trump-isnt-guilty-of-incitement-11610303966?mod=opinion_lead_pos5
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