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Post by Maxperson on Feb 29, 2020 7:26:06 GMT
I'm actually proud of you. Going for an actual news site instead of a right-wing blog site. You must have burst into flames when you did that. In my defense, I didn't look especially hard for current news on the Trump Tower thing. I'll cop to that. Also, as far as opinions vs opinions goes, that's essentially what we're doing here.
Linking to an opinion piece that bolsters your own argument (sometimes, the piece is better worded than what you can put down) is valid as long as you can fact-check them. I mean, you don't have to agree with the person, who posts the link, but it's valid.
Note: Far Right wing or Far left wing blog sites are not real news sites! I will mock you for it! I will!
In any case. Attempted cheating is still cheating. Just ask all the gamblers that have died because the other player's found out about the cards up their sleeves or all the people whose significant others have tried to cheat on them. Both the gamblers who had the cards up their sleaves and the significant others who tried to cheat their lovers will swear blue they didn't cheat. The other guys? They'll say yeah, they cheated.
The fact that he tried to cheat, should be concerning enough. Never mind that he didn't succeed. He tried to. He thought it was a good idea. Let that sink in. He opened himself up to blackmail and all sorts of skulldugggery with that bone-headed move. He lessened the office of the president when he did that. Just because he fucked it up doesn't mean he's innocent of it. He just didn't succeed at it, so he wasn't charged.
And yes. Conspiracy is the proper term.
All those gamblers and spouses would say that those others TRIED to cheat. Not that they cheated. You act as if attempting to cheat was okay and only cheating is bad. Both are bad. One is worse than the other. |
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Post by kirinke on Feb 29, 2020 11:32:47 GMT
He cheated. Because trying to cheat is cheating. I personally don't differentiate the two. Each is equally bad in my book because they're the same thing. You just suck at it when you fail the attempt. Now I respect that you don't agree with me, we each see the evidence and come with different conclusions. It happens. We're just going around around with this, so I suggest we leave it there and move on to something more interesting.
Failing to do something seems to be an ongoing gag with this incompetent administration. Everything Trump personally handles or directs falls apart. Even when he directs his own cheating efforts.
Which should really scare you. Especially considering the current health crisis that is growing by leaps and bounds right now. Trump put freaking Pence in charge of the Coronavirus taskforce. Pence. This is the dude who couldn't even handle Indiana's health problems.
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Post by Kzach on Mar 4, 2020 11:35:25 GMT
That might work. However, what about the Trump Tower meeting?
Nice try. But he still cheated.
Um. TRYING to cheat does not equal cheating. Nothing happened at the Trump Tower. Attempted murder is not murder, thus why there is no law against it. Oh wait... Moron. |
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Post by Kzach on Mar 4, 2020 11:46:29 GMT
Technically, he didn't try to cheat. Indeed. Colluding with a foreign nation to meddle in the elections is a criminal conspiracy. Not "cheating". |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 4, 2020 12:18:11 GMT
It's also cheating. No matter how you word it, what laws you quote, it boils down to one concept.
He cheated.
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 4, 2020 13:28:20 GMT
Um. TRYING to cheat does not equal cheating. Nothing happened at the Trump Tower. Attempted murder is not murder, thus why there is no law against it. Oh wait... Moron. Hey fuckface. I said upthread that attempted cheating was wrong. It's just not as bad as cheating. Here you fucking agreed with me. Attempted murder is wrong, but it's not as bad as murder. Idiot.  |
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 4, 2020 13:29:44 GMT
Technically, he didn't try to cheat. Indeed. Colluding with a foreign nation to meddle in the elections is a criminal conspiracy. Not "cheating". Er, the Democratic lapdog found no evidence of collusion, and he knew about the meeting and had all the evidence about it. |
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Post by cyphersmith on Mar 4, 2020 17:03:28 GMT
Indeed. Colluding with a foreign nation to meddle in the elections is a criminal conspiracy. Not "cheating". Er, the Democratic lapdog found no evidence of collusion, Bzzt, not true. He found evidence of cooperation (for example, Manafort gave polling data to the Russians), but due to lack of cooperation and outright lies, was unable to bring that up to actual conspiracy. and he knew about the meeting and had all the evidence about it. Not fucking likely, I'm not sure he even got statements from all involved. He almost certainly didn't get all the emails pertaining to it, nor did he get any notes that may have been taken at the meeting. |
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Post by Kzach on Mar 4, 2020 17:24:13 GMT
It's also cheating. No matter how you word it, what laws you quote, it boils down to one concept.
He cheated.
Sarcasm is too complicated for you. Stay away from adult conversations. |
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Post by Kzach on Mar 4, 2020 17:25:49 GMT
Indeed. Colluding with a foreign nation to meddle in the elections is a criminal conspiracy. Not "cheating". Er, the Democratic lapdog found no evidence of collusion, and he knew about the meeting and had all the evidence about it. Actually, he did. |
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Post by Kzach on Mar 4, 2020 17:28:23 GMT
Attempted murder is not murder, thus why there is no law against it. Oh wait... Moron. I said upthread that attempted cheating was wrong. No. You're lying again. You said nothing happened in the tower. If nothing happened, nothing wrong happened. Lying moron. |
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Post by kirinke on Mar 5, 2020 1:53:47 GMT
He still cheated you know.
I can do this all month. It never gets old.
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Post by Maxperson on Mar 5, 2020 2:59:30 GMT
I said upthread that attempted cheating was wrong. No. You're lying again. You said nothing happened in the tower. If nothing happened, nothing wrong happened. Lying moron. Context is your friend. I said that "Attempted cheating is not cheating. Nothing happened in that tower." Now, the word wrong isn't there, but your lack of reading ability aside, the context is determined by my first sentence. Nothing happened is in reference to cheating, so it means "No cheating happened." You're welcome for teaching you Engrish. |
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Post by Kzach on Mar 5, 2020 3:09:54 GMT
He still cheated you know.
I can do this all month. It never gets old.
Is this retard pride month? |
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Post by Kzach on Mar 5, 2020 3:10:40 GMT
No. You're lying again. You said nothing happened in the tower. If nothing happened, nothing wrong happened. Lying moron. Context is your friend. I said that "Attempted cheating is not cheating. Nothing happened in that tower." Now, the word wrong isn't there, but your lack of reading ability aside, the context is determined by my first sentence. Nothing happened is in reference to cheating, so it means "No cheating happened." You're welcome for teaching you Engrish. Liar. |
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