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Post by kirinke on Sept 9, 2019 23:43:53 GMT
And the children devolve into trading insults.
Le sigh.
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Post by Kzach on Sept 10, 2019 0:19:39 GMT
I can say the same thing about you or Cuntmancer or Mistcunt... You can say it, but that doesn't make it true. I love to see you quote me ever saying that. Nope. Still no facts or scientific evidence. Once again you fail. Like your marriages, career and life in general. You can't even rescue Cuntmancer with a simple redirection. Cunt.
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Post by kirinke on Sept 10, 2019 1:33:34 GMT
Commerce Chief Threatened Firings at NOAA After Trump’s Hurricane Tweets, Sources Say
WASHINGTON — The Secretary of Commerce threatened to fire top employees at the federal scientific agency responsible for weather forecasts last Friday after the agency’s Birmingham office contradicted President Trump’s claim that Hurricane Dorian might hit Alabama, according to three people familiar with the discussion.
That threat led to an unusual, unsigned statement later that Friday by the agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, disavowing the National Weather Service’s position that Alabama was not at risk. The reversal caused widespread anger within the agency and drew accusations from the scientific community that the National Weather Service, which is part of NOAA, had been bent to political purposes.
NOAA’s statement on Friday is now being examined by the Commerce Department’s Office of Inspector General, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times, and employees have been asked to preserve their files. NOAA is a division of the Commerce Department.
WASHINGTON — The Secretary of Commerce threatened to fire top employees at the federal scientific agency responsible for weather forecasts last Friday after the agency’s Birmingham office contradicted President Trump’s claim that Hurricane Dorian might hit Alabama, according to three people familiar with the discussion.
That threat led to an unusual, unsigned statement later that Friday by the agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, disavowing the National Weather Service’s position that Alabama was not at risk. The reversal caused widespread anger within the agency and drew accusations from the scientific community that the National Weather Service, which is part of NOAA, had been bent to political purposes.
NOAA’s statement on Friday is now being examined by the Commerce Department’s Office of Inspector General, according to documents reviewed by The New York Times, and employees have been asked to preserve their files. NOAA is a division of the Commerce Department.
The National Weather Service “must maintain standards of scientific integrity,” the inspector general, Peggy E. Gustafson, wrote in a message to NOAA staff members in which she requested documents related to Friday’s statement. The circumstances, she wrote, “call into question the NWS’s processes, scientific independence, and ability to communicate accurate and timely weather warnings and data to the nation in times of national emergency.”
The Commerce Department disputed the account on behalf of the Secretary of Commerce, Wilbur L. Ross Jr. “Secretary Ross did not threaten to fire any NOAA staff over forecasting and public statements about Hurricane Dorian,” the department said in a statement issued by a spokesman.
The spokesman declined to comment on whether Mr. Ross had spoken with the NOAA administrator or ordered the agency to rebut the statement contradicting the president’s assertion about a threat to Alabama.
The Commerce Department’s Office of the Inspector General did not respond to requests for comment late Monday.
The accusations against Mr. Ross are the latest developments in a political imbroglio that began more than a week ago, when Dorian was bearing down on the Bahamas and Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter that Alabama would be hit “harder than anticipated.” A few minutes later, the National Weather Service in Birmingham, Ala., posted on Twitter that “Alabama will NOT see any impacts from Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane Dorian will be felt across Alabama.”
Mr. Trump persisted in saying that Alabama was at risk and a few days later, on Sept. 4, he displayed a NOAA map that appeared to have been altered with a black Sharpie to include Alabama in the area potentially affected by Dorian. (Alabama was not struck by the hurricane.)
Mr. Ross, the commerce secretary, intervened two days later, early last Friday, according to the three people familiar with his actions. Mr. Ross phoned Neil Jacobs, the acting administrator of NOAA, from Greece where the secretary was traveling for meetings and instructed Dr. Jacobs to fix the agency’s perceived contradiction of the president.
Dr. Jacobs objected to the demand and was told that the political staff at NOAA would be fired if the situation was not fixed, according to the three individuals, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the episode.
The political staff at an agency typically includes a handful of top officials, such as Dr. Jacobs, and their aides. They are appointed to their jobs by the administration currently in power, as opposed to career government employees, who remain in their jobs as administrations come and go.
NOAA ultimately issued an unsigned statement last Friday calling the Birmingham office’s statement “inconsistent with probabilities from the best forecast products available at the time.”
A senior administration official who asked not to be identified when discussing internal deliberations said that the Birmingham office had been wrong and that NOAA had simply done the responsible thing and corrected the record.
That official suggested the Twitter post by the Birmingham forecasters had been motivated by a desire to embarrass the president more than concern for the safety of people in Alabama. The official provided no evidence to support that conclusion.
Craig N. McLean, NOAA’s acting chief scientist, sent an email to staff members Monday notifying the agency that he was looking into “potential violations” in the agency’s decision to ultimately back Mr. Trump’s statements rather than those of its own scientists. He called the agency’s action “a danger to public health and safety.”
Also on Monday, the National Weather Service director, Louis W. Uccellini, prompted a standing ovation at a weather industry conference in Huntsville, Ala., when he praised the work of the Birmingham office, asked them to stand and said staff members had acted “with one thing in mind, public safety” when they contradicted Mr. Trump’s claim that Alabama was at risk.
Dr. Jacobs is scheduled to address the conference Tuesday morning.
The NOAA episode is the latest example of administration officials moving levers of government to accommodate Mr. Trump’s statements. And few cabinet officials have been as loyal to Mr. Trump as Mr. Ross.
A billionaire investor, former steel magnate and friend and ally of Mr. Trump from the business world before joining the cabinet, Mr. Ross has in the past vigorously sought to advance divisive positions at the Commerce Department in support of policies advocated by Mr. Trump. He fought to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, only to lose in a stinging Supreme Court rebuke. He has also stood by the president on controversial decisions such as imposing tariffs on aluminum exports.
Mr. Trump himself has shown less deference than his predecessors to the traditional boundaries between the political and Civil Service sides of the government. Most notably, he has repeatedly called on the Justice Department to investigate his enemies.
In the NOAA dispute, Mr. Trump has also enlisted his Homeland Security adviser to issue a lengthy statement defending him.
The dispute at NOAA is also one of several instances of the Trump administration taking actions that undermine scientific findings. In the past, administration officials have tried to prevent a State Department official from testifying to Congress on climate-change science, and have tried to make changes to the standards used in government climate-change reports in a way that makes the threat from global warming appear less severe.
Richard Hirn, general counsel for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, said what made the NOAA episode extraordinary, though, was that it was not part of an overarching policy dispute on a contentious topic like climate change. “This is just to cover up an embarrassing mistake the president made,” he said.
Mr. Hirn, who said he has worked with the agency through six administrations, added that, “Never before has anybody tried to politicize the weather in all the administrations I’ve worked with.”
Noah Bookbinder, executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a nonpartisan watchdog group, said that political appointees served at the pleasure of the president and the cabinet secretary and could be fired at will. But, he said, threatening to fire staff members under these circumstances “goes against the norms and traditions that have been important to the government and are important to a functioning democracy.”
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Post by Kzach on Sept 16, 2019 10:23:32 GMT
Why indeed? "In the span of 24 hours, a Republican state lawmaker in Texas threatened to gun down Beto O’Rourke over the former Congressman’s assault weapons buyback proposal, a conservative PAC put out an inflammatory ad featuring a photo of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s (D-N.Y.) face on fire to reveal skulls, and Tomi Lahren suggested the need to shoot immigrants on Fox Business." "Recently, Lou Dobbs defended running over peaceful protestors, as one prison guard did in Rhode Island. No one cared. There was little to no outrage, and Dobbs remains on air to spew his disgusting disdain for Americans practicing their First Amendment rights. At the same time, traditional media coverage of this issue goes to extreme lengths to draw false equivalencies between the right and left on this issue. But while there have been a few condemnable instances of violence by Antifa, the reality is that right-wing extremism has led to dozens of deaths. The two sides are not the same, and anyone claiming they are isn’t being honest." thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/461498-why-are-we-turning-a-blind-eye-to-right-wing-incitement-of-violence?fbclid=IwAR3eDOFTQ4Gi8k09X6uirYgn8bau6es2OA-Fo58z3mnWzL0bgu4An7xX5P0
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Post by kirinke on Sept 17, 2019 0:30:31 GMT
Some guys gets punched and the right's up in arms. When a church gets shot up, the right offers 'thoughts and prayers'.
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 19, 2019 5:06:11 GMT
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 19, 2019 5:08:37 GMT
Finally a candidate who reaches across the aisles...
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Post by mustrumridcully on Sept 23, 2019 13:32:00 GMT
You ommitted the axis labels!
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Post by 3catcircus on Sept 23, 2019 18:23:47 GMT
You ommitted the axis labels! Doesn't matter. If "We're all doomed anyway!!" then I think we could do with sheeple from all four corners being Thanos'ed.
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Post by Kzach on Sept 23, 2019 23:09:13 GMT
You ommitted the axis labels! Doesn't matter. If "We're all doomed anyway!!" then I think we could do with sheeple from all four corners being Thanos'ed. Scat asking for the extermination of people!? I did Nazi that coming.
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 24, 2019 1:03:54 GMT
You ommitted the axis labels! You couldn't figure it out? I bet even kzach could figure it out if we gave him 3 weeks and access to google.
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Post by mustrumridcully on Sept 24, 2019 13:03:45 GMT
You ommitted the axis labels! You couldn't figure it out? I bet even kzach could figure it out if we gave him 3 weeks and access to google. I have an idea, but that is insufficient.
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 25, 2019 1:21:53 GMT
You couldn't figure it out? I bet even kzach could figure it out if we gave him 3 weeks and access to google. I have an idea, but that is insufficient.
The person I stole it from also omitted the axis labels... but I figure it's Socialist Pink, Imperialist Blue, Commie Green, and Capitalist Yellow.
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Post by Kzach on Sept 25, 2019 10:51:23 GMT
Blue is fascism, Cumstaineyore.
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Post by evileeyore on Sept 25, 2019 21:06:12 GMT
Blue is fascism, Cumstaineyore. Imperialism is not implicit to fascism to you complete and total moron.
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